New Sailplanes For the American Soaring Market?

Mr. Kesik has pride in the sailplanes produced by his native Poland.
If my US was producing gliders which matched the current Polish
standard, this forum would be filled with American nationalistic
pride. View a Diana in person and it might change your mind about
Polish standards.

BTW The same Mr. Kesik ripped me a new a**hole when I made a misguided
attempt at humour on this forum. At the same time I did talk a buddy
into buying a Foka 4!


Mr. Kesik,
would you please shut up about your useless Polish gliders? Not one
worthwile glider has ever come out of Poland, with your 'stars' PW-5
and Junior belonging to the 'run, do not walk away from' category.
Nobody cares.
Thank you.

(Mike Reyes) wrote in message . com...
Mr. Kesik has pride in the sailplanes produced by his native Poland.
If my US was producing gliders which matched the current Polish
standard, this forum would be filled with American nationalistic
pride.

I live in the greatest country in the history of mankind, and hell am
I proud of it. Do I state it in my every other post? I do not bring up
American gliders in every post, because, as we all know, they are not
competitive. I wish Mr. Kesik realized the same about Polish gliders.
No amount of 'nationalistic pride' will fix the PW5.

"F1y1n" wrote in message
om...
(Mike Reyes) wrote in message
. com...
Mr. Kesik has pride in the sailplanes produced by his native Poland.
If my US was producing gliders which matched the current Polish
standard, this forum would be filled with American nationalistic
pride.

I live in the greatest country in the history of mankind, and hell am
I proud of it. Do I state it in my every other post? I do not bring up
American gliders in every post, because, as we all know, they are not
competitive. I wish Mr. Kesik realized the same about Polish gliders.
No amount of 'nationalistic pride' will fix the PW5.

Perhaps, but choice of the PW-5 as the World Class glider was not a Polish
decision. FWIW, I had partial ownership of an Jantar Std 2 for a short
while and found it as nimble as my DG-100 and an honest 40/1 glider and
comfortable also. Though the trim and undercarriage lever seemed a bit
gash, I've recommended this glider to more than one happy owner while
warning them of known issues. FWIW, I wouldn't recommend a PW-5 in this
part of the US, because penetration into wind is fairly important.

However, although Mr. Kesik reminds us that the Polish production pricing is
in Zlotys, all of the websites' pricing appears in Euros. My most recent
check indicates that the price of the Junior seems to float, but I haven't
checked pricing often. If this is indeed the case, they should perhaps
advertise in multiple currencies; euros, dollar, and UK pound.

Frank Whiteley
Colorado

"F1y1n" wrote in message
om...
I live in the greatest country in the history of mankind, and hell am
I proud of it. Do I state it in my every other post? I do not bring up
American gliders in every post, because, as we all know, they are not
competitive. I wish Mr. Kesik realized the same about Polish gliders.

I'd take a Diana in a heartbeat.

Then again, I'm from Texas, not the good ol' USA of that Yale-y carpetbagger
can't-believe-it but-he-makes-Clinton-look-good Bush.
BTW--we called him shrub while he was governor.

F1y1n wrote:
...
I live in the greatest country in the history of mankind, and hell am
I proud of it.
...

A country where a majority of people are unable to realize that
people of other countries don't always master your native
language may hardly be qualified as the greatest country in
the history of mankind. A young French tourist recently
spent 20 days in jail for such a reason.

Sorry if you feel threatened or insulted by my above post,
this is not my intention, but as English is also not
my native language, misunderstanding may again occur.
Happily nobody can put me into jail for that where I am
now.

U=BFytkownik F1y1n w wiadomooci do grup dyskusyjnych =
le.com...

Mr. Kesik,
would you please shut up about your useless Polish gliders? Not one
worthwile glider has ever come out of Poland, with your 'stars' PW-5
and Junior belonging to the 'run, do not walk away from' category.
Nobody cares.
Thank you.

Sorry, but Your post is really at the floor level, and not worth any =
comment more than "thank you too".
If the only Pole you met is a bricklayer or dishwasher, then it's your =
loss.

Thank you.


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Janusz Kesik

visit www.leszno.pl - home of the www.css-leszno.it.pl

Janusz Kesik schrieb:
U¿ytkownik F1y1n w wiadomooci do grup dyskusyjnych .com...


Mr. Kesik,
would you please shut up about your useless Polish gliders? Not one
worthwile glider has ever come out of Poland, with your 'stars' PW-5
and Junior belonging to the 'run, do not walk away from' category.
Nobody cares.
Thank you.


Sorry, but Your post is really at the floor level, and not worth any comment more than "thank you too".
If the only Pole you met is a bricklayer or dishwasher, then it's your loss.

Well..... what do have against bricklayers? :-)

They have lots more brain and honor than our little "friend" here.

Hmm... just take a look at the Lak 17... niiiiceeeee ship.

CU
Markus

would you please shut up about your useless Polish gliders? Not one
worthwile glider has ever come out of Poland, with your 'stars' PW-5

I just added another name to my, DO NOT READ LIST fLY1N
JJ Sinclair

I CARE! And I certainly do not care about posts from some punk that is
too scared to put his name under.

Caring

Gregg J. Kurek

(F1y1n) wrote in message om...
"Janusz Kesik" wrote in message ...
Maybe it's time to switch to SZD Diana, Puchacz, or SZD-55 at least as
long as the Poland isn't in the Euro zone?
Just count it...

Regards,

Mr. Kesik,
would you please shut up about your useless Polish gliders? Not one
worthwile glider has ever come out of Poland, with your 'stars' PW-5
and Junior belonging to the 'run, do not walk away from' category.
Nobody cares.
Thank you.

Eureopean manufacture will not die. The actual manufacture will just move to
areas of lower costs...just like "back office" jobs of US companies are
acutally located in India and the Philippines. This already in place as the
production of "German" gliders is actually taking place in Slovenia and other
countries. Also, I would imagine that there is a large enough demand in Europe
to keep companies in business for a while longer, at least until the cycle is
completed, the Euro drops, US$ strengthens, and Americans start buying
sailplanes again...

Cheers, Charles