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Old June 1st 04, 09:39 AM
Ian Johnston
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On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 08:09:33 UTC, Stefan
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: At the time the term was
: introduced, "turbo" was a synonym for "better", "extra" etc.

Somewhere - I must get round to throwing it out - I have a PC with a
"Turbo" button which runs the 386 inside it at an amazing 16MHz (12MHz
otherwise).

Ian
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Old June 1st 04, 11:04 AM
Bruce Hoult
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In article cCUlhtvFIYkV-pn2-F8c8m9DhFJ44@localhost,
"Ian Johnston" wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 08:09:33 UTC, Stefan
wrote:

: At the time the term was
: introduced, "turbo" was a synonym for "better", "extra" etc.

Somewhere - I must get round to throwing it out - I have a PC with a
"Turbo" button which runs the 386 inside it at an amazing 16MHz (12MHz
otherwise).


The original PC "turbo" buttons ran the machine at 8 MHz instead of 4.77
MHz!!
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Old June 1st 04, 11:07 AM
Ian Johnston
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On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 10:04:14 UTC, Bruce Hoult wrote:

: In article cCUlhtvFIYkV-pn2-F8c8m9DhFJ44@localhost,
: "Ian Johnston" wrote:

: Somewhere - I must get round to throwing it out - I have a PC with a
: "Turbo" button which runs the 386 inside it at an amazing 16MHz (12MHz
: otherwise).
:
: The original PC "turbo" buttons ran the machine at 8 MHz instead of 4.77
: MHz!!

Whoops. Looks like I may not have quite such a star performer as I
thought...

Ian

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Old June 1st 04, 04:57 PM
Martin Gregorie
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On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 22:04:14 +1200, Bruce Hoult
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In article cCUlhtvFIYkV-pn2-F8c8m9DhFJ44@localhost,
"Ian Johnston" wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 08:09:33 UTC, Stefan
wrote:

: At the time the term was
: introduced, "turbo" was a synonym for "better", "extra" etc.

Somewhere - I must get round to throwing it out - I have a PC with a
"Turbo" button which runs the 386 inside it at an amazing 16MHz (12MHz
otherwise).


The original PC "turbo" buttons ran the machine at 8 MHz instead of 4.77
MHz!!


......but not long after that Zenith really extracted the urine from
the whole turbo marketing concept by selling the "Zenith Turbo Sport
386e" laptop computer.
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Old June 1st 04, 11:07 AM
Bruce Hoult
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In article ,
Stefan wrote:

BTIZ wrote:

to those of us converts from powered aircraft.. a turbo would signify more
power.. not less.. a turbo charger ramming more intake air into the
manifold..


Yes, that's a turbo charged engine. But in sailplanes, the term "turbo"
has a different, historical developed meaning. At the time the term was
introduced, "turbo" was a synonym for "better", "extra" etc. Hence the
term "turbo" was used for sailplanes with a sustainer. That's the whole
story. Technically as wrong as it can be, but who cares.


"turbo" applies perfectly well to a propellor ("turbine" in many
languages).

Given where they come from, if they were what we call "turbocharged" it
would proabbly say "Kompressor".

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Old June 1st 04, 11:42 AM
Stefan
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Bruce Hoult wrote:

Given where they come from, if they were what we call "turbocharged" it
would proabbly say "Kompressor".


No. In German, Kompressor is used for a mechanically driven charger,
turbo for the exhaust driven charger.

Stefan

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Old June 1st 04, 01:29 PM
Bert Willing
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Errr, no. There is even a famous upperclass car manufacturer who uses the
word "Kompressor" for turbo-charged engines.

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"Stefan" a écrit dans le message de
...
Bruce Hoult wrote:

Given where they come from, if they were what we call "turbocharged" it
would proabbly say "Kompressor".


No. In German, Kompressor is used for a mechanically driven charger,
turbo for the exhaust driven charger.

Stefan



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Old June 1st 04, 02:15 PM
Stefan
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Bert Willing wrote:

Errr, no. There is even a famous upperclass car manufacturer who uses the
word "Kompressor" for turbo-charged engines.


Well, to be as correct as I can be:

"Kompressor" is the German word for, you guessed it, a compressor. So to
call a turbo charged engine a Kompressor charged one is, strictly
technically spoken, correct.

Historically, though, the first cars with charged engines had
mechanically driven compressors (driven by the crankshaft). They were
called Kompressor engines.

Then came the charged engines where the compressor was driven by the
exhaust stream. They were called turbo charged engines, just to
distinguish. Technically spoken, the "cold" side of the turbo charger is
a compressor, too, of course. I should be surprised if any marketing
guiy understands this.

Oh, and then came the sailplanes with a sustainer. They are called turbo
sailplanes, to distinguish them from self launchers. It's a crazy world
out there.

Stefan

 




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