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Old November 11th 04, 04:34 AM
Eric Greenwell
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COLIN LAMB wrote:

Question - will the reading of the pulse oximeter discriminate against
carbon monoxide?

In other words, does the use of a pulse oximeter reduce the need of a carbon
monoxide detector? If carbon monoxide replaces oxygen, then the % of oxygen
would decrease and the oximeter would drop substantially when carbon
monoxide is present? Right?


I've never seen anything discussing the issue at all, so I'm guessing it
doesn't (not so much an issue for my ASH 26 E). Jim Skydell had an
article in Soaring about oximeters earlier, so you might check with him.
He's much more knowledgeable about them than I am.


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Old November 11th 04, 05:20 AM
Jim Skydell
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COLIN LAMB wrote:

Question - will the reading of the pulse oximeter discriminate against
carbon monoxide?


Great question Colin. The answer is NO. I had to look it up (from an article in the
medical literature by Neil B. Hampson):

"Presently available pulse oximeters overestimate arterial oxygenation in patients with
severe CO [carbon monoxide] poisoning. An elevated COHb [carbon monoxide bound to
hemoglobin] level falsely elevates the [level of oxygen in the blood] as measured [by]
pulse oximetry, (CHEST 1998; 114:1036-1041)"

What this means is that carbon monoxide, when attached to a hemoglobin molecule (which
carries oxygen within red blood cells) fools pulse oximeters into thinking there is more
oxygen in the blood than there really is. This is not surprising, since oximetry
basically does an analysis of blood color (the redder the blood, the more oxygen it
should be carrying). One way to guess that a patient has carbon monoxide poisoning is
that their skin and lips frequently look very red.

In other words, does the use of a pulse oximeter reduce the need of a carbon
monoxide detector? If carbon monoxide replaces oxygen, then the % of oxygen
would decrease and the oximeter would drop substantially when carbon
monoxide is present? Right?


Wrong. Although carbon monoxide does replace oxygen on the hemoglobin molecule, it fools
the oximeter in thinking there is more oxygen, when there really is less.

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Jim Skydell
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Old November 11th 04, 07:39 AM
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"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
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Question - will the reading of the pulse oximeter discriminate against
carbon monoxide?

In other words, does the use of a pulse oximeter reduce the need of a
carbon
monoxide detector? If carbon monoxide replaces oxygen, then the % of
oxygen
would decrease and the oximeter would drop substantially when carbon
monoxide is present? Right?

Colin N12HS


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Pulse oximetry cannot distinguish between different forms of haemoglobin.
Carbo-xyhaemoglobin (haemoglobin combined with carbon monoxide) is
registered as 90% oxygenated haemoglobin and 10% desaturated haemoglobin -
therefore the oximeter will overestimate the saturation. The presence of
methaemoglobin will prevent the oximeter working accurately and the readings
will tend towards 85%, regardless of the true saturation.

So the answer to your question is - you still need a CO monitor if there's
an engine about.

Ian


 




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