New Gov't. report involves GA

wrote:

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired wrote:

StellaStarr wrote:


Rich S. wrote:


I just saw an item on the morning news regarding a "new" report

from

some federal agency.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in680055.shtml

I think this might be it. I looked up at 5:30 CST and saw AOPA's

Boyer

telling 'em GA is no threat.

Some old guy responded that a Cessna with 200 pounds of fertilizer

was

dangerous enough to recreate the Oklahoma City bombing. I sighed.

It would need 200 pounds of fuel like diesel also. In any event if
memory serves the Ryder had something like 4 tons of explosive.



I read 1200 lbs, but doubt that figure as you fit a bomb that size in
the trunk of a large car, no need to rent a truck.


Before I said that I went to a non conspiracy site, they actually exist,
where they show McVeigh buy 2 kilopounds on 2 different occassions
making a total of 4 kilopounds add that to the 4 kilopounds of diesel
you get 8 kilopounds which comes out to 4 tons.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired wrote:

Before I said that I went to a non conspiracy site, they actually
exist, where they show McVeigh buy 2 kilopounds on 2 different
occassions making a total of 4 kilopounds

Who can name a GA plane that can carry 4 thousand lbs? That would be in
the area of a 20 passenger plane. So what, DC-3 or bigger? Isn't a
DC-3 technically an airliner?

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I think I saw the same report. I thought the guy said a Cessna and 200 lb
of C-4. A big difference from 200 lb of NAFO. The real question is where
does one get 200 lb of C-4 into this country without someone noticing? I
suppose you could steal it from Uncle, but that's not so easy. Also, at
least at our airport someone would notice some Arab-looking guys loading
that stuff into a Cessna and the Police helicopter is based right on the
field. Cars and trucks seem to be a much bigger threat.
--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)


"StellaStarr" wrote in message
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Rich S. wrote:
I just saw an item on the morning news regarding a "new" report from
some
federal agency.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in680055.shtml

I think this might be it. I looked up at 5:30 CST and saw AOPA's Boyer
telling 'em GA is no threat.

Some old guy responded that a Cessna with 200 pounds of fertilizer was
dangerous enough to recreate the Oklahoma City bombing. I sighed.

Bob Chilcoat wrote:
I think I saw the same report. I thought the guy said a Cessna and 200 lb
of C-4. A big difference from 200 lb of NAFO. The real question is where
does one get 200 lb of C-4 into this country without someone noticing? I
suppose you could steal it from Uncle, but that's not so easy. Also, at
least at our airport someone would notice some Arab-looking guys loading
that stuff into a Cessna and the Police helicopter is based right on the
field. Cars and trucks seem to be a much bigger threat.
--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)



Plastic explosives aren't hard to make. There are books available
telling how to do it. Most are dangerous, but not all. No, I won't say
which ones are good. As for loading the stuff onto an airplane what's to
stop the bad guys from stealing or renting the airplane then taking it
elsewhere to load?

The advantage of an airplane over a car bomb is you can actually get to
the building and the specific level.

Dan (veteran kamikaze pilot) U.S. Air Force, retired

"Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired" wrote in message
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Plastic explosives aren't hard to make. There are books available telling
how to do it. Most are dangerous, but not all. No, I won't say which ones
are good. As for loading the stuff onto an airplane what's to stop the bad
guys from stealing or renting the airplane then taking it elsewhere to
load?

The advantage of an airplane over a car bomb is you can actually get to
the building and the specific level.

Dan (veteran kamikaze pilot) U.S. Air Force, retired

Okay . . . you told him. Now yur gonna have to kill him.

Rich "The Pirate's Code" S.

Rich S. wrote:

"Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired" wrote in message
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Plastic explosives aren't hard to make. There are books available telling
how to do it. Most are dangerous, but not all. No, I won't say which ones
are good. As for loading the stuff onto an airplane what's to stop the bad
guys from stealing or renting the airplane then taking it elsewhere to
load?

The advantage of an airplane over a car bomb is you can actually get to
the building and the specific level.

Dan (veteran kamikaze pilot) U.S. Air Force, retired


Okay . . . you told him. Now yur gonna have to kill him.

Rich "The Pirate's Code" S.


Hey, I killed enough people in the 100 Years War.

Dan (who takes vitamin C for codes), U.S. Air Force, retired

"Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired" wrote in message
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Bob Chilcoat wrote:
I think I saw the same report. I thought the guy said a Cessna and 200
lb
of C-4. A big difference from 200 lb of NAFO. The real question is
where
does one get 200 lb of C-4 into this country without someone noticing?
I
suppose you could steal it from Uncle, but that's not so easy. Also, at
least at our airport someone would notice some Arab-looking guys loading
that stuff into a Cessna and the Police helicopter is based right on the
field. Cars and trucks seem to be a much bigger threat.
--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)



Plastic explosives aren't hard to make. There are books available
telling how to do it. Most are dangerous, but not all. No, I won't say
which ones are good.

I recommend that all terrorists use "The Anarchist's Cookbook."

C J Campbell wrote:

"Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired" wrote in message
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Bob Chilcoat wrote:

I think I saw the same report. I thought the guy said a Cessna and 200

lb

of C-4. A big difference from 200 lb of NAFO. The real question is

where

does one get 200 lb of C-4 into this country without someone noticing?

I

suppose you could steal it from Uncle, but that's not so easy. Also, at
least at our airport someone would notice some Arab-looking guys loading
that stuff into a Cessna and the Police helicopter is based right on the
field. Cars and trucks seem to be a much bigger threat.
--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)



Plastic explosives aren't hard to make. There are books available
telling how to do it. Most are dangerous, but not all. No, I won't say
which ones are good.


I recommend that all terrorists use "The Anarchist's Cookbook."


Only if you are into self mutilation. Several of the formulations are
WRONG.

One guy who makes videos and publishes books is Ragnar Benson. If you
want to use his materials count his fingers and look at his face.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

C J Campbell wrote:


I recommend that all terrorists use "The Anarchist's Cookbook."



That's the best counter terrorism measure I've heard of in a while.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired wrote:

The advantage of an airplane over a car bomb is you can actually get to
the building and the specific level.

Dan (veteran kamikaze pilot) U.S. Air Force, retired
^^^^^^^

Did you survive?