Girl Scouts and aviation??

Jay Honeck wrote:

It is in the Girl Scout manual that the girls are NOT permitted to fly in
private planes -- period, end of story.

Well, I haven't read the manual, but they had a GS troop show up at a YE flyout
over at Sky Manor last year.

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.

Well, I haven't read the manual, but they had a GS troop show up at a YE
flyout
over at Sky Manor last year.

I'm sure there are plenty of instances where leaders ignore (or are ignorant
of) the national rules. I tried to convince Mary to do the exact same
thing, but -- after careful consideration -- she decided to follow the rules
and fight from within.

She lost.

Bottom line: The Girl Scouts are simply too paranoid about liability to
ever sanction flying in personal airplanes. Face it, they've got a
veritable gold mine with those cookies and (unlike the Boy Scouts) have
millions to lose in any lawsuit.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

?? Boy scouts can fly, but Girl scouts can't?? Are boys 'more expendable'
than girls? jeesh

I'm with you and your wife on this one,,, what nonsense and a major
disservice to the girls. We gotta hire Patty Wagstaffe to get to the head
of the Girl Scouts and kick major butt! GRIN wink

Just can't get over it; what a wonderful experience to deprive their
daughters, of. :0(

Sad, is what it is.............

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Jay, I believe you but I really want to say "Are you kidding..." the
Girl Scout Manual says they are not permitted to fly in private
planes???!!! Does it really say that? I don't have a GS Manual handy

Jay, I believe you but I really want to say "Are you kidding..." the
Girl Scout Manual says they are not permitted to fly in private
planes???!!! Does it really say that? I don't have a GS Manual handy

Sad, but true.

It's in a 1/2 inch thick book of rules called "Safety-wise". This is the
book that spells out ALL the Girl Scout safety regulations, including how
many adults are allowed on road trips, who may drive, etc.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

But remember, the rule against flying is only for official, organized
Girl Scout activities....

That's a loophole you can driver a 747 thru...

Which brings up an interesting question....If John Travolta or one
of the executives at Boeing or Airbus offer a field trip to a troop
and the aircraft will be something like a 737, 747, A340, etc.
what's the policy? It's not Part 121. And if it's Travolta, it's
not part 135.

What's the policy?

"Blanche" wrote in message
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But remember, the rule against flying is only for official, organized
Girl Scout activities....

That's a loophole you can driver a 747 thru...

Really?

Which brings up an interesting question....If John Travolta or one
of the executives at Boeing or Airbus offer a field trip to a troop
and the aircraft will be something like a 737, 747, A340, etc.
what's the policy? It's not Part 121. And if it's Travolta, it's
not part 135.

What's the policy?

The policy is that you need to understand the regulations better than you
obviously do.

Large transport aircraft such as the 737 and larger are covered by certain
portions of the transport rules (that is, not just Part 91) even if they are
not flown as commercial operations.

However, I fail to see what the type of aircraft has to do with the
"loophole" you claim exists. The "loophole" isn't a loophole at all, since
an activity that's not an official, organized Girl Scout activity wouldn't
incur any liability risk for the Girl Scouts. It certainly doesn't seem to
have anything to do with the type of the aircraft, or what portions of the
FARs apply to the flights.

How are the two questions related?

Pete

"Montblack" wrote in message
...
Over the years I've seen a few Cub Scout / aviation posts on these
newsgroups. I do not recall seeing similar Girl Scout / aviation posts.

Girl Scouts aren't allowed to fly in private aircraft at all. Boy Scouts
have such severe restrictions ($1 million smooth liability, for example)
that they may as well be prohibited as well. Most youth organizations have
become so risk averse that you wonder how they function at all. The Boy
Scouts theoretically have the Aviation Explorers (for both boys and girls),
but try to actually organize a post....

Well, okay. The effect of many of these rules is that some leaders go ahead
and organize the prohibited activity anyway. They won't be covered by the
Scouts' insurance and assume all liability on their own. You could require
parents to sign a release acknowledging that the activity is prohibited by
the Scouting organization.

It isn't just aviation, you know. Restrictions on campfires, sharp objects,
camping, swimming, boating, travel by car, and everything else have pretty
much confined a lot of Scouting units to meeting in churches and either
playing basketball or discussing careers.

C J Campbell wrote:

/snip/
It isn't just aviation, you know. Restrictions on campfires, sharp objects,
camping, swimming, boating, travel by car, and everything else have pretty
much confined a lot of Scouting units to meeting in churches and either
playing basketball or discussing careers.



Just not piloting careers.

"C J Campbell" wrote

The Boy
Scouts theoretically have the Aviation Explorers (for both boys and
girls),
but try to actually organize a post....

I am involved in an Aviation Explorer post. It works quite well. It also
works for the other 100 or so Aviation Explorers from all over the country,
that have their own camping base at Air Venture, and work lots of hours at
anything from crowd control, to parking airplanes in the homebuilt showplane
area, to directing taxiway intersections on 18-36. They all actually
managed to belong to an organized post.

Young Eagle rides are permitted. A simple form is all that is needed.
Also, besides going to Oshkosh and working, they work at our local warbirds
airshow, which is fairly big. We also go to at least two major airshows per
year, have ATC tours, museum tours, ski trips. Follow the rules, and it is
not tough, at all.

Form a post. There are good kids anywhere, needing leadership, to get into
aviation.
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Jim in NC