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John Harper wrote:
Paul Tomblin wrote: Does anybody have a good handle on when ATC wants you to read back altimeter settings? On a single IFR flight on Tuesday, I encountered several controllers who I'd check in with, and they'd give me an altimeter setting, and that would be it, and 2 (both in Canada, BTW) whom when I didn't read back the altimeter setting gave it to me again. In the US I've never read back an altimeter, I've rarely heard anyone else do it, and I've never heard anyone questioned for it. In the UK it is mandatory and they will prompt you if you don't read it back. I guess Canada operates to the same procedures as the UK. US radio practice is actually quite a bit different from the international norm, as you quickly discover when you try to fly somewhere else! John That's interesting, either flying flight following or IFR I read back altimeter readings and I generally hear most everybody do that. Ross |
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John Harper wrote:
Paul Tomblin wrote: Does anybody have a good handle on when ATC wants you to read back altimeter settings? On a single IFR flight on Tuesday, I encountered several controllers who I'd check in with, and they'd give me an altimeter setting, and that would be it, and 2 (both in Canada, BTW) whom when I didn't read back the altimeter setting gave it to me again. In the US I've never read back an altimeter, I've rarely heard anyone else do it, and I've never heard anyone questioned for it. Interesting as I've experienced just the opposite flying in the northeast. I'd say almost all of the time they are read back. Matt |
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![]() "John Harper" wrote in message news:1112895851.557572@sj-nntpcache-3... In the UK it is mandatory and they will prompt you if you don't read it back. I guess Canada operates to the same procedures as the UK. I realize that I have not completed training yet... but in Canada, under VFR, my understanding is that pretty much NOTHING needs to be read back EXCEPT: ....instructions to hold-short (or cross) runways during taxi (must be specifically itemized in the taxi instructions, and must be read back) ....LAHSO clearances. ....anything else only whenever read-back requested by ATC. Maybe my training will uncover more, as it progresses, but to date (and from what I have read), those are the only MANDATORY requirements. Where I fly (busy satellite within major class C area), you pretty much never hear an altimeter (or even a landing clearance) read back. Always acknowledged..., but rarely read back. |
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Paul Tomblin wrote:
Does anybody have a good handle on when ATC wants you to read back altimeter settings? On a single IFR flight on Tuesday, I encountered Here in ICAO country, it's mandatory to read back the altimeter setting, as well as any clearances and assigned flight levels. It may be handled differently in the USA. Stefan |
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On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:24:31 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote: Does anybody have a good handle on when ATC wants you to read back altimeter settings? On a single IFR flight on Tuesday, I encountered several controllers who I'd check in with, and they'd give me an altimeter setting, and that would be it, and 2 (both in Canada, BTW) whom when I didn't read back the altimeter setting gave it to me again. I automatically read back the altimeter setting when ever given, whether IFR or VFR. Any time I've forgotten to include it in the read back they have given it to me again. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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So maybe there really is a geographic aspect to this. It's
true that my instructor taught me to minimize chit chat, and I do. But really, honestly, in Northern CA where I do most of my flying I rarely hear them read back, and never do it myself, and it never seems to cause a problem. Or maybe I just filter it out when other people do it, I don't know. (Things that used to drive my instructor mad: "identing" - "they can see it on the screen, you don't need to tell them" "taxiing into position" - "how else are you going to do it" etc.....) John I automatically read back the altimeter setting when ever given, whether IFR or VFR. Any time I've forgotten to include it in the read back they have given it to me again. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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In a previous article, John Harper said:
"identing" - "they can see it on the screen, you don't need to tell them" I've had controllers request it again after I just pushed the ident button without telling them that I was doing so. You'd think that only one VFR target would be identing when they asked, but evidently not. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. |
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![]() In 2003, I had an interesting experience at a small airport... I was inbound, 15 miles out, above pattern altitude and descending. I called the field to get runway in use and wind. He also gave me altimeter, which I started to dial in, and in and in... I slowly realized this was not right by a long shot. I vaguely remembered the previous setting, set it back and put her down. Turns out that *someone* had set the field altimeter to field elevation (600 feet) but had dialed it in BACKWARDS past zero to basically -400 feet! The reading was an historic 'hurricane low' pressure, perhaps only seen before in Death Valley. Since then, when changing the altimeter, I announce 'off of 2992 for ????'... HankC John Harper wrote: So maybe there really is a geographic aspect to this. It's true that my instructor taught me to minimize chit chat, and I do. But really, honestly, in Northern CA where I do most of my flying I rarely hear them read back, and never do it myself, and it never seems to cause a problem. Or maybe I just filter it out when other people do it, I don't know. (Things that used to drive my instructor mad: "identing" - "they can see it on the screen, you don't need to tell them" "taxiing into position" - "how else are you going to do it" etc.....) John I automatically read back the altimeter setting when ever given, whether IFR or VFR. Any time I've forgotten to include it in the read back they have given it to me again. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:06:30 -0700, John Harper
wrote: "identing" - "they can see it on the screen, you don't need to tell them" "taxiing into position" - "how else are you going to do it" etc.....) I waffle on saying 'identing' when asked to ident. I think nowadays I've settled on just reading back my tail number when asked for an ident (with, of course, pushing the button). aw |
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![]() "aaronw" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:06:30 -0700, John Harper wrote: "identing" - "they can see it on the screen, you don't need to tell them" "taxiing into position" - "how else are you going to do it" etc.....) I waffle on saying 'identing' when asked to ident. I think nowadays I've settled on just reading back my tail number when asked for an ident (with, of course, pushing the button). I give them my tail number and what I'm identing. |
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