I'M FROM THE FAA AND I'M HERE TO HELP YOU

First, I don't have an "attitude", but I do apologize if I misinterpreted
your motives.


"Denny" wrote in message
oups.com...
The whole purpose of the original poster (ME) was to present to the
group something interesting and relevant to aviation that is on the
news wires...
Your attitude is your problem...

denny

"Denny" wrote in message
oups.com...
The whole purpose of the original poster (ME) was to present to the
group something interesting and relevant to aviation that is on the
news wires...
Your attitude is your problem...


Who are you talking to?

"Lakeview Bill" wrote in message om...
"The official was questioned and released, and NO CHARGES WERE FILED IN THE
INCIDENT."

While the PIC has full control over the flight, in this instance, we have
seen no evidence that the PIC was involved in the action.


The Flight Attendant is acting as the voice of the PIC, as required crewmember.

And absent specific instructions from the PIC, I think it is quite possible
that a flight standards manager could very well trump a flight attendant.


The abscence of specific instructions from the PIC indicates concurrance with the attendants actions.

As an analogy, scale the incident down to where it involves an off-duty
policeman in plain clothes riding on a city bus when an altercation broke
out. If you were on the bus, wouldn't you want the cop to trump the bus
driver in handling the situation?

Probably not.

Jose
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Lakeview Bill wrote:

"The official was questioned and released, and NO CHARGES WERE FILED IN THE
INCIDENT."

While the PIC has full control over the flight, in this instance, we have
seen no evidence that the PIC was involved in the action.

And absent specific instructions from the PIC, I think it is quite possible
that a flight standards manager could very well trump a flight attendant.

I don't see that being reasonable at all. An FAA manager has no
authority on a civilian operated airliner.


Just a guess, but I imagine that the situation escalated because of some
sort of interpersonal issues between the FAA official and the FA.

As an analogy, scale the incident down to where it involves an off-duty
policeman in plain clothes riding on a city bus when an altercation broke
out. If you were on the bus, wouldn't you want the cop to trump the bus
driver in handling the situation?

This isn't even close to an analogy. A police officer has law
enforcement authority, an FAA manager has no such authority.


Frankly, none of us can make any sort of judgment regarding the situation
based on the information we have seen here; we simply aren't given all of
the facts.

And I think that the whole purpose of the original post was to feed those
who hate the FAA.

I thought it was to show that even an FAA manager isn't above the law.

Matt

"Lakeview Bill" wrote in message
om...
"The official was questioned and released, and NO CHARGES WERE FILED IN
THE
INCIDENT."

While the PIC has full control over the flight, in this instance, we have
seen no evidence that the PIC was involved in the action.

PIC doesn't have to be involved.

And absent specific instructions from the PIC, I think it is quite
possible
that a flight standards manager could very well trump a flight attendant.

I don't believe the FARs back up your thoughts.

Just a guess, but I imagine that the situation escalated because of some
sort of interpersonal issues between the FAA official and the FA.

As in the FAA goon sticking his/her nose in where it doesn't belong.

As an analogy, scale the incident down to where it involves an off-duty
policeman in plain clothes riding on a city bus when an altercation broke
out. If you were on the bus, wouldn't you want the cop to trump the bus
driver in handling the situation?

Probably not.

Frankly, none of us can make any sort of judgment regarding the situation
based on the information we have seen here; we simply aren't given all of
the facts.

And I think that the whole purpose of the original post was to feed those
who hate the FAA.

There is plenty of that food in the store to last decades.

"Lakeview Bill" wrote in
om:

While the PIC has full control over the flight, in this instance,
we have seen no evidence that the PIC was involved in the action.

In FARs 91.11 and 121.80, what part of "crewmember" don't you
understand? By regulation, Flight Attendants are required
crewmembers and the minimum numbers are specified in FAR 121.391

And absent specific instructions from the PIC, I think it is quite
possible that a flight standards manager could very well trump a
flight attendant.

Please cite the regulation backing up your statement. Again,
remember that a Flight Attendant is a crewmember.



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