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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:16:09 GMT, "OtisWinslow"
wrote in :: This came about because they were unable (or unwilling) to control a couple rogue members. (One of them no longer flies and has open contempt for those of us who still do, and the other one was one of those who caused the demise of AvWeb). Who are those members? What sort of remarks did they post that were so powerful as to shut down AOPA's message board? As destructive as they may be, they must possess considerable literary talent to wield such power. |
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It's not the same owners and steers way clear of anything controversial.
"Bob Gardner" wrote in message ... The demise of Avweb? I log on every Monday and Thursday...how does what I look at differ from what you refer to? Bob Gardner "OtisWinslow" wrote in message ... They announced they were shutting it down on Monday. Supposedly it's going to reopen in about "4 to 6" weeks. In the mean time they say they're going to "upgrade" it but they haven't decided what software because their lawyers are looking at ways to tighten up the rules and protect them. This came about because they were unable (or unwilling) to control a couple rogue members. (One of them no longer flies and has open contempt for those of us who still do, and the other one was one of those who caused the demise of AvWeb). So AOPA takes this resource away from ALL members because it lacked the courage to deal with the trouble makers. Unbelievable. I'm betting we never see it again. |
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I find the AOPA website very user-unfriendly. It insists that my
browser doesn't allow cookies, though it does, so every log-in is a two-step process to find the alternative system for logging in without a cookie. You're not alone. Heck, as the Airport Support Network volunteer, I supposedly have access to "special" parts of the AOPA website. It took me FOREVER to successfully log on, and getting my password changed to something I could remember (as opposed to a random series of letters and numbers) was more difficult than it was worth. Result: I never visit the site. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Avweb used to have a lot more user input. There was some strong user
criticism of the lawyers involved in the Carnahan case, and maybe others. The lawyers sued Avweb (what else is new?) and ever since there has been an active avoidance of anything controversial. |
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"OtisWinslow" wrote in message ... They announced they were shutting it down on Monday. Supposedly it's going to reopen in about "4 to 6" weeks. In the mean time they say they're going to "upgrade" it but they haven't decided what software because their lawyers are looking at ways to tighten up the rules and protect them. This came about because they were unable (or unwilling) to control a couple rogue members. (One of them no longer flies and has open contempt for those of us who still do, and the other one was one of those who caused the demise of AvWeb). So AOPA takes this resource away from ALL members because it lacked the courage to deal with the trouble makers. Unbelievable. I'm betting we never see it again. There seems to be a lot of that "Cowardly Lion" syndrome going around. Maybe wimps are attracted to organizations. John Lowry Flight Physics |
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Cub Driver wrote:
I find the AOPA website very user-unfriendly. It insists that my browser doesn't allow cookies, though it does, so every log-in is a two-step process to find the alternative system for logging in without a cookie. I once complained to AOPA about this, and got an email suggesting that I telephone and let the guy "walk you through" the process. I didn't bother. I would've been a waste of time. The last two or three times I tried to login there, they displayed a page that stated they had some sort of problem. Apparently lots of people get the "cookies" message and can't log in at all. As I recall, the page had a title that contained the question "Why am I here?" I think they could use a good webmaster. At least you got email back -- they haven't responded to the last two I sent. George Patterson There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the mashed potatoes. |
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Until 5 (?) or so years ago, Avweb was informative and irreverant.
There was a chuckle in every issue. Then, there was a change of management and the irreverance and humor disappeared in the first issue, never to return. There's a bit more to the story. The short version is that someone posted something quite critical of a particular aviation lawyer who makes his living suing manufacturers, making life difficult (and expensive) for all of us who fly. It's a pretty good living for him though - good enough that he can go around crashing warbirds. He sued AvWeb (since the poster wasn't worth suing) and AvWeb set up a fund to pay the defense costs, and started asking for donations to fill the fund. Many donated. Then, instead of carrying it forward as a freedom of the press/common carrier issue, they caved and used the donations to pay a settlement. At that point AvWeb became just another Belvoir publication - same crap as their magazines. Michael |
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OtisWinslow wrote: They announced they were shutting it down on Monday. Supposedly it's going to reopen in about "4 to 6" weeks. snip No great loss, IMHO. I was over there a couple of weeks ago and the boards were dead. It looked like they were only averaging one or two dozen post per week. John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180) |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
... [...] As destructive as they may be, they must possess considerable literary talent to wield such power. The pen is mightier than the sword, don't forget. |
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:41:23 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote in :: "Larry Dighera" wrote in message .. . [...] As destructive as they may be, they must possess considerable literary talent to wield such power. The pen is mightier than the sword, don't forget. It would be nice to know who the two pilots, to whom the OP referred, are, and specifically what they posted on AvWeb that precipitated the legal action, as well as their specific comments that resulted in AOPA closing their message board. I'd say they wield a mighty "sword" indeed. |
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