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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:03:05 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in ZNO6e.8341$Bb3.4369@attbi_s22:: What would YOU eliminate from the Private Pilot training curriculum? The current required material for airman certification (Private, Instrument and Commercial) seems appropriate. Students might also benefit from exposure to FAA Orders 7110.65* and perhaps some of the FSDO Inspectors' related orders**. It also makes sense to make FAA Advisory Circulars*** more readily available (free of charge) to students and airmen by having those publications at the located FBO training facilities. Much of that material is covered in the Aeronautical Information Manual, but I still believe there is significant benefit in depth of understanding by reading the actual orders and circulars. * http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/ ** http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/faa/8700/ *** http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...ory_circulars/ |
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What would YOU eliminate from the Private Pilot training curriculum?
As things stand, the FAR's are what they are, the NAS is what it is, and the PTS is what it is. The typical private pilot training curriculum is something of a joke - even when it actually exists and is followed, it's merely an organized process for making sure the applicant arrives at the checkride with the Part 61 (or 141) experience requirements met and with the ability to pass the oral/practical (meaning answer questions on PTS topics and fly PTS maneuvers to PTS tolerances). Nothing can be removed from it because in the interest of cutting costs, it has already been pared down to the bare minimum. In order to streamline the process of making pilots, we would have to bring the FAR's and the NAS into the 21st century. Here are the changes I would make: Revamp the weather briefing system. It's still a holdover from the days when bandwidth was critically limited. AIRMET TANGO? WIE UFN? Hooks and dots that must be memorized to know that you have light rain and not showers? Get over it. If you need to condense the chart and thus use symbols, they should be defined in a legend on the chart - like they are on sectionals, low altitude enroutes, and all the other charts people actually use. Write the text weather out in plain english. Spend the time that need no longer be spent on memorizing weather symbols and abbreviations on teaching about how weather actually works. Change the PTS concept. Right now, the private PTS is full of maneuvers that have no real value AS THEY ARE TESTED. They all have real value when you understand what they're actually about, and they all need to be taught - but not as they're tested. Consider slow flight. Why do we teach it? So the student can practice control of the airplane at critically slow airspeeds - airspeeds so slow that we normally encounter them only in the flare for landing and maybe on rotation. This makes sense - it's hard to get any good at something you can only practice for a couple of seconds at a time, only a dozen times on even a good day. So how do we teach it? We teach it at altitude. This is sensible. You don't want to teach this at 25 ft, or even 250. Too much chance of something going wrong. So we do it at 2500 ft. But we also require the student hold altitude, +/- 100 ft. At 2500 ft, you will not judge altitude to within 100 ft by looking outside the airplane. You will need to look inside, at the panel. This is the LAST place you want the student looking during the landing flare. So just by teaching the PTS maneuver before solo (as required by Part 91) you are developing bad habits in the student - habits that will make it harder for him to learn to land. We SHOULD be doing slow flight without reference to the altimeter at all, and in fact without reference to ANY instruments. That's because the only time the skills developed are relevant, meaning in the flare, you need to be 100% outside. But that's not the way the maneuver is tested. As tested, it has no real value. Any flight intructor worth his salt can tell if the student had solid skills in airplane control at critically low airspeeds after one takeoff and one landing anyway. The only problem is that if you drop slow flight from the PTS, it will get dropped from most training syllabi - and there goes ANY exposure the student would ever get to flight at critically slow airspeeds. Slow flight is only one example. In reality, the way we test MOST of the PTS maneuvers is inherently flawed, and makes extra work for the student with no real benefit. Streamline the regulations. We spend too much damn time teaching them because they're too complex by half. A medical is good for 36 claendar months, not three years. But a student pilot certificate is only good for 24 calendar months. But you need 3 takeoffs and landings in the last 90 days, not three months. And winds aloft are given in degrees true, but tower winds are in degrees magnetic. And distances are always in nautical miles, but visibility is always in statute miles. And ATC will give you VFR flight following but won't open your VFR flight plan (generating a strip manually instead). And a VFR tower will close your IFR flight plan but not your VFR flight plan. WTF? Pick a sensible system and stick with it. Of course the design of the aircraft has its own issues. Even an advanced aircraft like a Cirrus still has a mixture control. We've had altitude-compensating carburetors since about 1938, but here we are in the 21st century and even the most advanced GA airplane being made still has a mixture control. And magnetos. Bloody-be-damned magnetos. So we spend time on engine management. How to cold start. How to hot start. How to lean for best power vs. best economy. Don't think it makes much difference? A couple of local CFI's recently ran a C-152 out of gas. They used the 75% endurance chart, but they leaned for best power (lean until RPM drop, then enrich to max RPM) and ran out of gas at 3.2 hours, just a few minutes from home, when the chart clearly showed an endurance of 4.2 hours - at best economy. For that matter, why are we still seeing new airplanes shipped with the inherently inaccurate (by design) ball-and-float gauges and no fuel flow measurement, when a set of capacitive gauges and a fuel totalizer for marine applications go for less than $100 each? So instead we spend all this time on fuel management - and people still crash. If the planes had accurate fuel gauges and fuel totalizers, how much time would we really need to spend on fuel management? Of course the truth is that the aircraft are the way they are because of the FAA. In fact, until the FAA changes the way it does business, it will not be possible to streamline private pilot training. Nothing can be removed from the syllabus at this point. Michael |
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In order to streamline the process of making pilots, we would
have to (BIG SNIP OF GREAT STUFF) Thanks for sharing that, Michael. Great points, all right on the money. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Michael wrote:
Consider slow flight. Why do we teach it? According to several of my instructors, we teach it because if you get trapped by deteriorating weather, it's a lot safer to be looking for a good place to land at slow speed than at cruise. George Patterson There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the mashed potatoes. |
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![]() "George Patterson" wrote: Consider slow flight. Why do we teach it? According to several of my instructors, we teach it because if you get trapped by deteriorating weather, it's a lot safer to be looking for a good place to land at slow speed than at cruise. Wow, that's a scary pictu a newbie PP stuck in bad weather, flying around with the stall horn blowing. -- Dan "How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!" - Chief Inspector Dreyfus |
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Dan Luke wrote:
Wow, that's a scary pictu a newbie PP stuck in bad weather, flying around with the stall horn blowing. Way back in the 30s, some pilots would spin through an overcast and then recover underneath in the clear. Unless the ceiling was 200', that is. Can you imagine? Open cockpit, rain spraying you and there you go into an intentional spin into the merk. Must have had huge balls and tiny brains.... -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN VE |
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I would eliminate the cost.
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