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Jay Honeck wrote:
Since nowadays VFR pilots have little use for VORs, (I don't turn them
on -- ever -- except for the occasional practice VOR approach), to put
those
kind of questions on the Private written exam is just another way to weed
out
potential pilots.


Gee...when I took the written back in 1980, most of the questions were 1)
pilotage/dead-reckoning, 2) ADF, and 3) VOR, in that order. RNAV didn't
exist except in bizjets and DME was an analog display (50nm max range).

Your cross-country was supposed to be pilotage and using VOR's only for
cross-checking.

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:17:57 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote in
::

[In 1980] RNAV didn't exist except in bizjets ...

I was using RNAV in 1971 in a Cessna 177.

Larry Dighera wrote:
[In 1980] RNAV didn't exist except in bizjets ...

I was using RNAV in 1971 in a Cessna 177.


RNAV was no more common than that C-177. It was something we read about; not
something that we got to use. I didn't even see my first LORAN until around
1984.

GPS? Two weeks ago, when I did my bienial.... the first one in 15 years.
Things have changed a bit.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

Matt Barrow wrote:
Gee...when I took the written back in 1980 ... RNAV didn't
exist except in bizjets and DME was an analog display (50nm max
range).

1981 Skylanes were optionally equipped with RN-478A RNAV and R-476A DME
(digital display).

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:37:47 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in vyH7e.15254$xL4.5745@attbi_s72::

... to put those kind of questions on the Private written exam is just
another way to weed out potential pilots.

That's true. The potential pilots it weeds out are those who are
incapable of understanding VOR operations. Would you prefer to share
the skies with them?

Dumbing down the airman training curricula in blind fear of future
dwindling numbers in our ranks is a policy about as astute as
squandering tens of billions of dollars of tax payers' money waging
your daddy's war during a time when our nation's future citizens are
being so poorly educated that it's embarrassing if not freighting.
Fortunately, it is you, not me, who will have to live in that future
America.

Larry Dighera wrote:
[snip]
squandering tens of billions of dollars of tax payers' money waging
your daddy's war during a time when our nation's future citizens are
being so poorly educated that it's embarrassing if not freighting.

I aint poorly educated! I'm gonna be retrained using Federal
monies for my next job -- working at Home Depot.

blanche-unemployed for 6+ months
BA, MS (math)
MS (computer science)
almost PhuD (math & computer science)

Larry Dighera wrote:
[snip]

squandering tens of billions of dollars of tax payers' money waging
your daddy's war during a time when our nation's future citizens are
being so poorly educated that it's embarrassing if not freighting.

Yeah, look what it did for your spelling.

squandering tens of billions of dollars of tax payers' money waging
your daddy's war during a time when our nation's future citizens are
being so poorly educated that it's embarrassing if not freighting.

Yeah, look what it did for your spelling.

Hey -- maybe Larry really *meant* that he's "freighted"?

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:37:47 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in vyH7e.15254$xL4.5745@attbi_s72::


... to put those kind of questions on the Private written exam is just
another way to weed out potential pilots.

That's true. The potential pilots it weeds out are those who are
incapable of understanding VOR operations. Would you prefer to share
the skies with them?

Actually, it doesn't even do that. There are what? Maybe 2 or 3 questions on the
test that deal with VORs? Anybody who flunks 'cause they missed those is also
missing a lot of other knowledge that they really should have.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

Actually, it doesn't even do that. There are what? Maybe 2 or 3 questions
on the test that deal with VORs? Anybody who flunks 'cause they missed
those is also missing a lot of other knowledge that they really should
have.

VORs are just a single example of (what I consider) silly stuff on the
Private written exam. Name five more, and we could pare the test down by
20%.

Although, again -- I wonder if the new Sport Pilot hasn't already done most
of this? Has anyone seen the written exam for Sport Pilot?

Heck, I don't even know if there *is* a written exam for Sport Pilot...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"