Google Groups Beta

On 4 May 2005 21:50:21 -0700, wrote in
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Jay Honeck wrote:.

What do you find so wrong with it?
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One of the groups that I follow, Beta just abitrarily dropped about
13,000 posts and decided that there were only 2 posts in 10+ years of
the group's exsistance. Three days later it suddenly found the posts it
dropped and then the next day lost them again....

Although, I'm sure this is not the reason for Mr. McNicoll's
abhorrence of Google Group's Beta user interface, Google Groups is an
open spam gateway to Usenet evidenced by the recent blizzard of spam
posted by 'Amos'.

The 'improved' Beta UI automatically trims included text from the
articles it presents, rewraps formatted text poorly, destroys proper
threading, and is generally inferior to the prior Google interface,
let alone the useful DajaNews interface.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:Jrhee.48364$r53.25814@attbi_s21...
I'm stuck using Google to access the groups when I'm at work. [...]

Tell your boss to get a clue. As long as you're reading the newsgroups on
your own time, there's no reason you shouldn't have NNTP access on your work
network.

I'm stuck using Google to access the groups when I'm at work. [...]

Tell your boss to get a clue. As long as you're reading the newsgroups on
your own time, there's no reason you shouldn't have NNTP access on your
work network.

I tried to get the jerk fired, but it didn't work out.

;-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I tried to get the jerk fired, but it didn't work out.

Well, at the very least, you ought to hack the network (to ensure NNTP goes
through) and install a non-web newsreader. That'll show the *******. The
hard part will be getting access to the network without him noticing. Tempt
him with some beer.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:Jrhee.48364$r53.25814@attbi_s21...

I'm stuck using Google to access the groups when I'm at work. I've found
their version of the groups to be not without merit. It's not as good as
using Outlook Express (or Outlook) -- but it's better than some
newsreaders I've found.

What do you find so wrong with it?


I find it more difficult to track message threads compared to the previous
format. I think it's a step backward.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

I find it more difficult to track message threads compared to the
previous
format. I think it's a step backward.

Like Jay, I use it at work because I have no NNTP access. I've been
using Beta since it came out and it's been getting better. I think
the biggest problem was learning how to navigate groups with the new
interface. After using it for a few weeks, I finally got it set up so
that I can see the threads easily and navigate the groups that I
follow.

I used to just use the "advanced search" page to read the groups.
With Beta, I actually signed up and gave it the list of my preferred
groups. Like I said, it's not perfect by any standard, but it seems
to work OK once you get the hang of it.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

On Thu, 05 May 2005 04:39:05 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

I went to Google Canada some months ago when that godawful Beta version of
Google Groups was introduced in the US. Today it found it's way to the
Canadian site as well. Anybody know of a clean site left?

I'm stuck using Google to access the groups when I'm at work.

why? does your ISP at work does not offer usenet news?

I've found
their version of the groups to be not without merit. It's not as good as
using Outlook Express (or Outlook) -- but it's better than some newsreaders
I've found.

try forte. it is free. - www.forteinc.com

What do you find so wrong with it?

it is a web frontend.

#m
(still searching more newsfeeds for our newsserver (we have now 20+ feeds
up and running) - see http://service.hotze.com/usenet/peering.htm for more
info; I might also add alt.binaries.pictures.aviation some day, depending
on traffic. and there might be a chance for access to the server for r.a.*
folks)
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http://www.hotze.priv.at/album/aviation/caution.jpg

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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On Thu, 05 May 2005 04:39:05 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

I'm stuck using Google to access the groups when I'm at work.


why? does your ISP at work does not offer usenet news?


It's because he has an unreasonable employer.

why? does your ISP at work does not offer usenet news?

It's because he has an unreasonable employer.

Yeah, he's a cheap *******...

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article jcqee.58225$WI3.37479@attbi_s71,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

why? does your ISP at work does not offer usenet news?

It's because he has an unreasonable employer.

Yeah, he's a cheap *******...

At least you didn't blame it on Mary!

:-)

--
Bob Noel
no one likes an educated mule