Google Groups Beta

In a previous article, said:
I'm stuck using Google to access the groups when I'm at work.

why? does your ISP at work does not offer usenet news?

"ISP at work"? You've never worked at a company with a real IT
department, have you? Ours doesn't allow anything out of the firewall
without passing through proxies that they can monitor, and that means web
telnet, or ftp only. Not even ssh, which is a royal pain in the ass.


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otherwise be a mere malfunction. -- Carl Jacobs

On Thu, 5 May 2005 13:09:14 +0000 (UTC), Paul Tomblin wrote:

I'm stuck using Google to access the groups when I'm at work.

why? does your ISP at work does not offer usenet news?

"ISP at work"? You've never worked at a company with a real IT
department, have you?

hmm. I'm root ... :-)

Ours doesn't allow anything out of the firewall
without passing through proxies that they can monitor, and that means web
telnet, or ftp only.

I have the doubtful pleasure to host a site for someone (google translates
it with 'work council') who needs to access the site from within the
company he is working for (Swarovski crystal [1]).

Not even ssh, which is a royal pain in the ass.

you can change the port ssh is using (but you might then violate our
company's usage policy)

#m

[1] their headquarter is only 15 minutes by car away from here.

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In a previous article, said:
On Thu, 5 May 2005 13:09:14 +0000 (UTC), Paul Tomblin wrote:
Not even ssh, which is a royal pain in the ass.

you can change the port ssh is using (but you might then violate our
company's usage policy)

Doesn't help if the only connection I'm allowed to make is to port 8080 on
proxy-server.company.com

Yes, I know how you can tunnel ssh through a web proxy. I don't
particularly want to get fired, though. We have a telnet proxy, and so I
telnet home and use text based news and mail clients there. Which is one
reason why I LOVE mutt and trn and have never been tempted to the dark
side of GUI newsreaders. The other reason is that I can navigate my news
without taking my hands off the home row and grabbing a mouse.

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In article , Paul Tomblin wrote:
"ISP at work"? You've never worked at a company with a real IT
department, have you? Ours doesn't allow anything out of the firewall
without passing through proxies that they can monitor, and that means web
telnet, or ftp only. Not even ssh, which is a royal pain in the ass.

Two words:
HTTP CONNECT

Run your ssh server on port 443. Run a script that contacts the web
proxy and connects to the remote ssh server on port 443, and connect
your ssh client to your script. The proxy can't tell the difference
between ssh and https because of their end-to-end encrypted nature.

If you are using Redmondware, PuTTY will actually do the whole thing for
you.

I used to work for $IT_GIANT, and they didn't filter ssh - it was rather
nice of them.

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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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I'm stuck using Google to access the groups when I'm at work.

why? does your ISP at work does not offer usenet news?

Apparently not. Oddly enough.

try forte. it is free. - www.forteinc.com

You mean Agent. No, wait...you mean Free Agent. Agent costs money.
Outlook Express is free too. So is 40tude Dialog. There are probably
others. But until Jay gets NNTP acccess, all of that is irrelevant.

Pete

On Thu, 5 May 2005 12:30:35 -0700, Peter Duniho wrote:

I'm stuck using Google to access the groups when I'm at work.

why? does your ISP at work does not offer usenet news?

Apparently not. Oddly enough.


hm, he might install Hamster http://www.tglsoft.de/misc/hamster_en.htm as a
small newserver (freeware) at home, use a static IP address or dyn-dns at
home and then connect from work to the server at home.

or he uses a free NNTP access (or invests some bucks for a paid service or
switches to an ISP offering all what he wants/needs)

try forte. it is free. - www.forteinc.com

You mean Agent.

yep.

No, wait...you mean Free Agent. Agent costs money.
Outlook Express is free too. So is 40tude Dialog. There are probably
others. But until Jay gets NNTP acccess, all of that is irrelevant.


hm, I gave Thunderbird http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ a try
(also freeware) today and installed an Outlook Express theme. Worked OK and
gives the Outlook Express user a known environment.

Pete

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