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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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In article , Matt Barrow wrote:
In article au2fe.55730$NU4.36038@attbi_s22, Jay Honeck wrote:
trouble with hydrogen is it's
difficult to store, difficult to handle, costs lots of energy to make
(either with oil directly or by electrolyis).

Today it is, but it's like oil was 100 years ago.

Not wanting to be harsh, but stop thinking statically, in the short
term...try thinking like an inventor/entrepreneur, not a
schoolboy/employee.
Most of all, stop barfing back with the schools/media feeds you.

Actually, it's the schools/media feeding everyone this hydrogen pipe
dream.

Absolute BS!

It's precisely because I'm thinking like an inventor/entrepreneur
that I suspect it will be much more practical, cheaper, faster and
better to develop diesel based technologies when it comes to the storage
and use of fuels (particularly in large machines).

You call going with a slight adjustment to the status quo
inventor/entrepreneurship?

In article , Matt Barrow wrote:
You call going with a slight adjustment to the status quo
inventor/entrepreneurship?

No, that's why I didn't mention one.

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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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The thing is, it'd be nice to keep ourselves in a situation where we can
continue to enjoy the high standard of living we do now - and that will
require change of some sort.

Agreed.

Disagree.

As our standard of living has improved over the past couple hundred years,
our envirnment has become, concurrently, healthier.

Wealthier people keep their world cleaner (go to an upscale neighborhood and
contrst that with the innder city) , even with out the envirofascists
goosestepping.

But I, as opposed to many, have faith that the economic system will
"provide" us with the solution, as it did when petroleum supplanted whale
oil. If I had to guess at this early stage, I'd say that the solution
will
be hydrogen -- but there's really no way to tell.

Wealthier people keep their world cleaner (go to an upscale neighborhood and
contrst that with the innder city) , even with out the envirofascists
goosestepping.

Do they do this by generating less filth, or by dumping their filth on
the less wealthy people?

Jose
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"Jose" wrote in message
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Wealthier people keep their world cleaner (go to an upscale neighborhood
and
contrst that with the innder city) , even with out the envirofascists
goosestepping.

Do they do this by generating less filth, or by dumping their filth on
the less wealthy people?

Christ, what a stupid response.

Where are the garbage disposal sites around your town, in the inner cities?

Get a friggin' clue!

Christ, what a stupid response. [...]
Get a friggin' clue!

hmmph.

Where are the garbage disposal sites around your town, in the inner cities?

Actually, yes. And the same thing is probably true where you live too.

Here, the garbage is taken to a "transfer station", not a dump. The
difference is garbage in a dump stays there, and garbage in a transfer
station gets transferred elsewhere, in this case to a less affluent city
thirty miles further south. From there (IIRC) it is processed, and put
on a barge to go somewhere else. I'm not sure exactly where "else" it
goes, but it probably ends up in a giant dump in the middle of a nearby
large city where it stays until another barge takes it out to the ocean.
If it ever gets there.

Jose
--
Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Where are the garbage disposal sites around your town, in the inner
cities?

Actually, yes. And the same thing is probably true where you live too.

Here, the garbage is taken to a "transfer station", not a dump. The
difference is garbage in a dump stays there, and garbage in a transfer
station gets transferred elsewhere, in this case to a less affluent city
thirty miles further south. From there (IIRC) it is processed, and put on
a barge to go somewhere else. I'm not sure exactly where "else" it goes,
but it probably ends up in a giant dump in the middle of a nearby large
city where it stays until another barge takes it out to the ocean. If it
ever gets there.

I think you're missing Matt's point, which is that a wealthy people will do
whatever it takes to keep themselves wealthy (and successful) -- including
cleaning up the environment. To a large degree, this has been accomplished
in America. (As anyone who lived through the 60s, 70s, and 80s can attest
to. Heck, I couldn't swim in Lake Michigan as a boy. Now, it's so clean,
all the lake perch have died off -- because they can't hide from the
predators! The water is simply too clean.)

In my opinion, inner city ghettos are the biggest paradox in American life.
Having worked in several for seven years of my life, collecting bills, I am
qualified to tell you that they are filthy, vermin-ridden areas that are
populated with the most bizarre dregs of the universe. We are talking lazy,
dangerous people who routinely disregard personal safety to live a lifestyle
that, by any measure, is completely self-destructive.

And, most amazingly of all, much of this happens for NO apparent reason.
The lifestyle is a CHOICE -- it's not "put on them by the Man" or, imposed
because of "prejudice" -- or any other knee-jerk, easy explanations. In
fact, many inner city folks are incredibly intelligent people -- they just
choose to live a morally bankrupt lifestyle that must be quarantined from
the rest of society.

Which, of course, is why the inner cities are so dangerous. No one really
knows how to "fix" them -- so they are merely "contained."

It's all so terribly sad.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jose" wrote in message
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Christ, what a stupid response. [...]
Get a friggin' clue!

hmmph.

Where are the garbage disposal sites around your town, in the inner
cities?

Actually, yes. And the same thing is probably true where you live too.

Here, the garbage is taken to a "transfer station", not a dump. The
difference is garbage in a dump stays there, and garbage in a transfer
station gets transferred elsewhere, in this case to a less affluent city
thirty miles further south. From there (IIRC) it is processed, and put
on a barge to go somewhere else.

Where is that "someplace else"? Do you know or are you just pulling
suppositions out of your ass?

I'm not sure exactly where "else" it
goes, but it probably ends up in a giant dump in the middle of a nearby
large city where it stays until another barge takes it out to the ocean.

Befoe shooting your mouth off, why don't you try finding out how is happens?

If it ever gets there.

Ignorance is bliss.

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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As our standard of living has improved over the past couple hundred years,
our envirnment has become, concurrently, healthier.

Wealthier people keep their world cleaner (go to an upscale neighborhood
and
contrst that with the innder city) , even with out the envirofascists
goosestepping.

Total ********- when 4% of the worlds population create 23% of the worlds
greenhouse gasses, I would not equate that with the wealthy protecting the
neighbourhood. In this case by neighbourhood I mean the world.