It was really close...

"gatt" wrote in message
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Peter, there's a war going on.

Sort of.

Despite the 2nd Amendment, we don't let people carry guns and grenades on
airplanes either.

What's that got to do with Americans' right to freely move about the
country?

While it is common for security measures to be implemented without regard to
whether they will actually accomplish anything, that doesn't make it right.

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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Despite the 2nd Amendment, we don't let people carry guns and grenades
on
airplanes either.

What's that got to do with Americans' right to freely move about the
country?

Are you kidding me? What they can't effectively control, they just pass
legislation against. So everybody pays a penalty by having their individual
freedoms taken away. Except, of course, those who don't care to play by the
rules.

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Hello, my name is Mike, and I am an airplane addict....

"Mike W." wrote in message
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Are you kidding me? What they can't effectively control, they just pass
legislation against. So everybody pays a penalty by having their
individual
freedoms taken away. Except, of course, those who don't care to play by
the
rules.

You haven't explained how the 2nd Amendment along with the exception
disallowing guns and grenades on airplanes (and technically, those are only
disallowed on commercial flights) has anything to do with Americans' rights
to freely move about the country (and in particular, justifying restricting
that right).

Why would I be kidding you?

Pete

On Fri, 13 May 2005 16:32:45 -0700, gatt wrote:

Peter, there's a war going on.


yeah, and you haven't started it, you are only defending yourselves, etc.
etc. yaddayadda.

Despite the 2nd Amendment, we don't let people carry guns and grenades on
airplanes either.

but it would help the government to have a better control if there would be
a gun regulation. you don't have something to hide, have you? no? so you
can register your guns with your government .. help your government fight
terrorism. you want to help your government fighting terrorism, won't you?

-c

#m, opening Pandoras box. :-)

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Martin Hotze wrote:

On Fri, 13 May 2005 16:32:45 -0700, gatt wrote:


Peter, there's a war going on.



yeah, and you haven't started it, you are only defending yourselves, etc.
etc. yaddayadda.


Despite the 2nd Amendment, we don't let people carry guns and grenades on
airplanes either.


but it would help the government to have a better control if there would be
a gun regulation. you don't have something to hide, have you? no? so you
can register your guns with your government .. help your government fight
terrorism. you want to help your government fighting terrorism, won't you?

Sure, but someday you may have to defend yourself against your
government and hence the second amendment. The writers of the
constitution were well aware of this potential and thus they planned for it.


Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Sure, but someday you may have to defend yourself against your government
and hence the second amendment. The writers of the constitution were well
aware of this potential and thus they planned for it.

People can (and do) debate the intent behind the 2nd amendment. But do you
(or anyone else) seriously think that the kinds of arms we are permitted as
US citizens provide ANY serious potential for defense against our own
government?

I know I don't. If that was the intent, the protection intended has long
been voided.

Pete

"gatt" wrote in message ...
Despite the 2nd Amendment, we don't let people carry guns and grenades on
airplanes either.

Yeah, the 2nd Amendment has been slowly eroded by all the ****in'
leftists... They can't quite understand that "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" means
EXACTLY that... There's no EXCEPT WHEN CONVENIENT" clause to it...

"gatt" wrote in message ...

People can play logical soccer with the issue all they want, but the
airspace is closed,



Actually, it is a ADIZ. You can get clearance. Tough, but you can....

Gatt,

to let pilots
run amok over Washington DC.


They "ran amok"? As far as I know, they just flew. Man, all of us are
running amok all over the world regularly by your definition. It's my
favorite pastime, this "running amok". Jeeze!

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)