Why turbo normalizer?

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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That is my point. There does not appear to be any reason for anyone to
ever buy a turbo norm system. The engine runs just as hot/hard, etc at
altitude with a turbo norm vs. a regular turbo.

A turbo norm system simply replaces the power the engine would normally
make at sea level. A regular turbo system attempts to get more power
out of a smaller engine. The larger turbo normalized engine will last
longer because it isn't working as hard. It will cost less in the long
run to operate and be more reliable.

However, the argument appears to be
worthless, in truth a turbo norm wears out your engine just as fast as
a regular turbo.

I don't think anybody ever said that. They said that a turbo (of any
sort) increases wear, at the very least due to lowered cooling ability.
A turbo normalizer doesn't let you do more than rated power. A turbo
supercharger does. This makes more more wear.

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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
oups.com...
That is my point. There does not appear to be any reason for anyone to
ever buy a turbo norm system. The engine runs just as hot/hard, etc at
altitude with a turbo norm vs. a regular turbo. The turbo norm
companies try to trick people into thinking that putting a turbo norm
on your engine will not wear your engine any more than normal asp
because you never get over 30". However, the argument appears to be
worthless, in truth a turbo norm wears out your engine just as fast as
a regular turbo.

-Robert


I would disagree, there are a lot of reasons to buy a turbo (nomalizer or
otherwise). To fly higher, fly faster, climb much faster, takeoff shorter
(much shorter at high DA).

Mike
MU-2

Mike Rapoport wrote:




I would disagree, there are a lot of reasons to buy a turbo (nomalizer or
otherwise). To fly higher, fly faster, climb much faster, takeoff shorter
(much shorter at high DA).

You also have to look at your options. I will be putting the Pponk
engine into my 182 next fall. It is 275 HP. My airplane will
outperform the Turbo 182's until the density altitude reduces my 275 HP
to less than the 230 HP of the turbo engine. And since I am buying it
for takeoff and climb performance and not cruise speed I will always
outperform the turbo because my typical mountain flying mission always
allows me to have more than 230 HP available. The breakeven point is
84% power.

"Newps" wrote in message
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Mike Rapoport wrote:




I would disagree, there are a lot of reasons to buy a turbo (nomalizer or
otherwise). To fly higher, fly faster, climb much faster, takeoff
shorter (much shorter at high DA).

You also have to look at your options. I will be putting the Pponk engine
into my 182 next fall. It is 275 HP. My airplane will outperform the
Turbo 182's until the density altitude reduces my 275 HP to less than the
230 HP of the turbo engine. And since I am buying it for takeoff and
climb performance and not cruise speed I will always outperform the turbo
because my typical mountain flying mission always allows me to have more
than 230 HP available. The breakeven point is 84% power.

Agreed. The ultimate for the Helio is the 450hp Allison engine. Although
it is a turbine and therefore loses power with altitude like a normally
aspirated piston, it still have more power than a turbo normalized recip and
is significantly lighter as well.

I am somewhat surprised that you always have 84% power availible for takeoff
in the mountains.


Mike
MU-2

Mike Rapoport wrote:


I am somewhat surprised that you always have 84% power availible for takeoff
in the mountains.

I don't of course. That's the breakeven point with the turbo.

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message news:hyTie.4294
I would disagree, there are a lot of reasons to buy a turbo (nomalizer or
otherwise). To fly higher, fly faster, climb much faster, takeoff shorter
(much shorter at high DA).


In the case of the B36TC, your TBO goes up 100 hours.


Here is some data and examples (Check the brochure links at the bottom of
the page).
http://www.taturbo.com/tcppr.html

Here is the contrast from a TSIO-520 to a TNIO-550
http://www.taturbo.com/performance.html

Reference http://www.taturbo.com/houtbk.jpg


Matt
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Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO