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Old May 24th 05, 09:20 PM
RST Engineering
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Care to cite your reference for this statement?

Jim



Current charts *are* required



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Old May 25th 05, 06:44 PM
George Patterson
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Neil Gould wrote:

Current charts *are* required,


No, they are not.

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Old May 24th 05, 09:23 PM
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I'd appreciate knowing where this quotation came from.

Jim



" "failure to check all pertinant information including a standard
briefing,"



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Old May 24th 05, 09:34 PM
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Jim wrote:

I'd appreciate knowing where this quotation came from.


It came from my rather hurried attempt to string together the logic a
reporter may have followed to report that this pilot is being cited for
not "checking the weather," amongst other charges.

To follow along: FARs state it is a pilot's responsibility to obtain
all pertinent information in preparation for a flight... one
contribution to this is for the pilot to get a standard briefing... a
standard briefing contains a lot of weather information.... pilot never
obtained a recorded standard briefing (if the FAA is to be believed)...
reporter incorrectly concludes that pilot never checked the weather...

How'd I do? :-)

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Old May 24th 05, 09:58 PM
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Not as well as I had hoped. {;-)

Where did you get the notion that a "standard briefing" (whatever that is
and wherever defined in regulation) contains weather information. The
pertinent regulation (91.103) requires INFORMATION; no mention is made of
"briefing". It requires weather information IF the flight is not "in the
vicinity of AN airport". It doesn't say the LAUNCHING or LANDING airport,
just AN airport. And what is "vicinity"? Gliding distance? Range of the
aircraft? Vicinity is one of those "not defined here" terms that make
Hawaiian vacations for lawyers possible.

Jim


To follow along: FARs state it is a pilot's responsibility to obtain
all pertinent information in preparation for a flight... one
contribution to this is for the pilot to get a standard briefing... a
standard briefing contains a lot of weather information.... pilot never
obtained a recorded standard briefing (if the FAA is to be believed)...
reporter incorrectly concludes that pilot never checked the weather...

How'd I do? :-)



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Old May 24th 05, 10:30 PM
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Jim wrote:

Where did you get the notion that a "standard briefing" (whatever that is
and wherever defined in regulation) contains weather information.


Ha... why do I get the feeling that is this a piece of cheese attached
to a bar holding back a spring-powered hammer?

The pertinent regulation (91.103) requires INFORMATION; no mention is made of
"briefing".


I certainly agree and my intention was not to imply that that the
regulation requires a briefing. Instead I was envisioning how the
process might have been explained to a reporter.

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Peter

 




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