Light Sport Aircraft survey

Rick Pellicciotti wrote:

Montblack wrote:

("Rick Pellicciotti" wrote)

Following the conventions of this group, I won't mention the airplane
I sell or the prices. If you are interested, email me off the group
and I will send you details.



It's not spam (IMHO) if the post is requested ...it's hangar talk. g

Post your plane's link and tell us what's special about it - and don't
forget those prices ($$$$$). Many interested people here. Be prepared
for some, um, feedback :-)

Will it, and you, be at Oshkosh?


Montblack

Sorry to take so long to respond to your post. I have been in Romania,
at the factory, taking delivery of our first two aircraft. Yes, we will
be at Airventure, display #39 and we will also have an airplane in the
"Light Sport Aircraft Mall".

Our airplane is the "Festival", manufactured by Aerostar S.A. of
Romania. Aerostar is the same company that builds the famous Yak52 that
I am sure many of you have seen at airshows and aerobatic competitions.

Festival is all-metal, and has side-by-side seating for two people. The
cockpit is 42" wide. The standard engine is the Rotax 912ULS, 100hp.
The airplane has a lot of small features that we think are important to
the owner such as locking gas caps and canopy, seats that adjust easily
and a large baggage compartment. The airplane has built-in, structural
roll-over protection. A lot of airplanes with canopies do not have
that. The biggest thing that we have done is that we have worked with
Aerostar to "americanize" the airplane. All parts that are subject to
wearing out or breaking such as brakes, wheels , tires, instruments and
avionics are all of American manufacture and can be sourced readily from
the usual places.

Aerostar is JAR21 and ISO9000 certified. They do sub-contract work for
Boeing and Airbus. They have about 2100 employees. Absolutley great to
work with and they build great airplanes. In the course of doing the
structural tests as required by the ASTM standards, they actually tested
one airframe to destruction. The standard requires 150% load at 4g's.
The airplane did 182%.

More details on our website at http://www.lightsportflying.com
Constructive suggestions are more than welcome.

Rick


Will you be offering a model for initial sport pilot training ?
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"Paul kgyy" wrote in message
oups.com...
If I took this route, it would probably be driven by price, and I don't
think I would build. If I'm going to invest the time to build
something, I'd rather build something fast like a Velocity. If I could
get a new LSA aircraft for less than $75K, I'd consider a new one,
otherwise probably go with an oldie for which parts were still easily
available - maybe an ERcoupe so I could learn to do crosswind landings
with feet on the floor :-)


I read somewhere that a company plans on tooling up to build the Taylorcraft
in an old bus manufacturing plant in Brownsville, TX. Retail estimate of
about $60,000 per aircraft.

Allen

Paul kgyy wrote:

If I took this route, it would probably be driven by price, and I don't
think I would build. If I'm going to invest the time to build
something, I'd rather build something fast like a Velocity. If I could
get a new LSA aircraft for less than $75K, I'd consider a new one,
otherwise probably go with an oldie for which parts were still easily
available - maybe an ERcoupe so I could learn to do crosswind landings
with feet on the floor :-)


I've found Ercoupes fascinating for a long time and have been watching
them, looks like they took about a $5,000+ jump in price when the LSA
rule came out. That's a lot for an airplane that used to sell in the
high teens and low 20's.

Sport Pilot definitely caused a rush to buy older planes that would meet the
category. It was great to see those old classic planes being wanted again. I
have noticed here lately that the price jump is going back to a modest
amount, which is a good thing for us poor pilots ! There is a Ercoupe for
sale here for 14,500 with 24 SMOH , could use a paint job, but all in all
not a bad deal. From what I have seen prices are from 13,000 -18,000 with a
few here and there above or below it.

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech
"xyzzy" wrote in message
...
Paul kgyy wrote:

If I took this route, it would probably be driven by price, and I don't
think I would build. If I'm going to invest the time to build
something, I'd rather build something fast like a Velocity. If I could
get a new LSA aircraft for less than $75K, I'd consider a new one,
otherwise probably go with an oldie for which parts were still easily
available - maybe an ERcoupe so I could learn to do crosswind landings
with feet on the floor :-)


I've found Ercoupes fascinating for a long time and have been watching
them, looks like they took about a $5,000+ jump in price when the LSA rule
came out. That's a lot for an airplane that used to sell in the high teens
and low 20's.

In a previous article, "gilan" said:
Do you own or are you planning to buy or build an aircraft that fits into
the Light Sport Aircraft rules? The airplane can be an older "factory"
certified airplane such as the Cub or Ercoupe, a new "factory" S-LSA or an
experimental that does or will comply with the LSA rules.

Somebody emailed me as the contact for my flying club trying to convince
us to buy a new LSA. The only problem was that this thing only carried
about 500 pounds, and it cost $120,000. If I went to my members and said
we're spending $120,000 and getting something that can't fly as far and
carry as much as the Piper Dakota we spent $85,000 for a few years ago,
they'd lynch me.


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Quando omni flunkus moritati (when all else fails play dead)

i've read-up on all the light sport stuff i can find and it looks like
$60-80,000 to fly 2 people, vfr for maybe 350 miles or so at 90-100
mph. the idea of having a brand new craft does have some appeal but
pushing a headwind and getting a net ground speed in the 40-50mph range
while getting beat to death does not sound like fun.

as i'm pushing 60 years old i do have to consider that i could be
forced into light sports in not too many years.

i dunno


dan

Most of the stuff I have seen is rated at 120 mph cruise and about 350
miles.. I just saw one this morning other day for 54K

http://www.bbardaviation.com/PRODUCTS/allegro2000.html

I expect prices to drop a bit over the next year as competition starts
heating up and the market equalizes.

IMHO, you should see them about $40-44K in next couple of years.








On 25 May 2005 10:30:09 -0700, "houstondan"
wrote:

i've read-up on all the light sport stuff i can find and it looks like
$60-80,000 to fly 2 people, vfr for maybe 350 miles or so at 90-100
mph. the idea of having a brand new craft does have some appeal but
pushing a headwind and getting a net ground speed in the 40-50mph range
while getting beat to death does not sound like fun.

as i'm pushing 60 years old i do have to consider that i could be
forced into light sports in not too many years.

i dunno


dan

Jim

http://www.unconventional-wisdom.org

"Paul Tomblin" wrote

Somebody emailed me as the contact for my flying club trying to convince
us to buy a new LSA. The only problem was that this thing only carried
about 500 pounds, and it cost $120,000.

What is selling for 120,000 bucks? I have not seen any that cost anywhere
near that!
--
Jim in NC

In a previous article, "Morgans" said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote
Somebody emailed me as the contact for my flying club trying to convince
us to buy a new LSA. The only problem was that this thing only carried
about 500 pounds, and it cost $120,000.

What is selling for 120,000 bucks? I have not seen any that cost anywhere
near that!

It's called "AMD Alarus". Useful load 607 pounds, fully IFR equipped
$129,900.


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"Grove giveth and Gates taketh away."
- Bob Metcalfe (inventor of Ethernet) on the trend of hardware speedups
not being able to keep up with software demands

"Paul Tomblin" wrote

It's called "AMD Alarus". Useful load 607 pounds, fully IFR equipped
$129,900.

Someone was trying to sell you a bill of goods. It is way over weight, at
1,692 pounds, gross; over 1,000 pounds, empty!

Is there something I am missing? It doesn't look like a sport airplane, to
me.
--
Jim in NC