New Garmin 396

Morgans wrote:

I guess if you want to use the XM music output function, you will use one
cable, to go to the intercom, or earphones.

Its probably loop through satellite feed to the XM Radio, thats how the
current XM Weather RX boxes work...

If the receiver is in the Garmin, then that alot of stuff packed in
there, plus another monthly subscription...

"Darrel Toepfer" wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:

I guess if you want to use the XM music output function, you will use
one
cable, to go to the intercom, or earphones.

Its probably loop through satellite feed to the XM Radio, thats how the
current XM Weather RX boxes work...

If the receiver is in the Garmin, then that alot of stuff packed in
there, plus another monthly subscription...

I think we are talking about two different things. I was talking about the
fact that while connected to XM for data, with a music subscription, you can
take a music feed from the 396 to you choice of listening connections.
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:

If the receiver is in the Garmin, then that alot of stuff packed in
there, plus another monthly subscription...

I think we are talking about two different things. I was talking about the
fact that while connected to XM for data, with a music subscription, you can
take a music feed from the 396 to you choice of listening connections.

Reading the "quick reference" .pdf, you sir are correct, it has an
internal XM Radio receiver, however you'll need to turn off the XM
Weather to activate the receiver... So I wonder if they are tossing in
the XM Radio subscription for free with the weather package?

Accepts TIS traffic uploads from A GTX 330 transponder, uploads VHF
frequency data to a SL30/40 com, DSC Marine VHF connectivity, marine
Sonar connectivity (think amphib)... This unit is very k3wl indeed...

"...however you'll need to turn off the XM Weather to activate the
receiver..."

Sorry, but that's not correct. Turning XM Weather on/off and using XM Radio
just happen to appear on the same page in the Quick Ref, but there is no
correlation between the two.

Obviously, you will need to leave the Map Page where the weather data is
displayed in order to go to the XM Audio Page. The XM Audio page is where
you select your channels, and it also has a Mute/Enable audio output
selection, which determines whether the radio is heard.

Once you have tuned the XM radio and Enabled audio output, the radio will
continue to play even if you leave the XM Audio page and return to the Map
Page to view the weather...



"Darrel Toepfer" wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:

If the receiver is in the Garmin, then that alot of stuff packed in
there, plus another monthly subscription...

I think we are talking about two different things. I was talking about
the
fact that while connected to XM for data, with a music subscription, you
can
take a music feed from the 396 to you choice of listening connections.

Reading the "quick reference" .pdf, you sir are correct, it has an
internal XM Radio receiver, however you'll need to turn off the XM
Weather to activate the receiver... So I wonder if they are tossing in
the XM Radio subscription for free with the weather package?

Accepts TIS traffic uploads from A GTX 330 transponder, uploads VHF
frequency data to a SL30/40 com, DSC Marine VHF connectivity, marine
Sonar connectivity (think amphib)... This unit is very k3wl indeed...

Jonathan Goodish wrote:
In article 1120746983.96c8ea236aee82fdb45a0f6f90deb804@teran ews,
"Richard Kaplan" wrote:
forums to give me pause
about whether I want to mess with such things while flying. Here, the
Garmin approach wins, and solidly.

That is absolutely true... not to mention no dealing with power cables,
bluetooth, configuring windows, etc. etc.

GPS with a competing software product. As someone else pointed out, you
will have a $2500 paperweight when the a new version with new
capabilities is released, if you want those new capabilities. And, as

It's been my impression that as serious capability upgrades are
introduced to the PDA software, the hardware requirements grow with it.
As a result, if you bought a PDA solution 3 years back, and wanted to
upgrade the software now, wouldn't you find yourself upgrading the PDA
too? (And the GPS if, say, you wanted a WAAS unit) Of course, actual
cost might still be lower since they sell 25 PDAs for every 1 Garmin
GPS.

As far as interfacing for TIS display, I wonder for how much longer this
will be a useful feature? Has anyone been able to confirm the reported
plans to start turning down TIS sites? I'm not sure that I'd invest in
a GTX330 at this point with TIS on its way out, but if you have one
already, it's certainly a selling point.

This is the first I've heard of such rumors, though I'm not in the
know. Is the plan to replace TIS with ADS-B? I'm surprised to hear
something so (relatively) new going out so fast. We're still using
NDBs, ferchrissakes.

Still, this opens up a new front in the old game of, "what will Garmin
think of next?"

The only remaining thing the current technology would support would be
some kind of solid-state backup AI. Nice, but (1) serious liability
issues and (2) only of interest to IFR pilots, which is a much smaller
group than the current gizmos attract. I therefore bravely speculate
that we won't see this anytime soon.

The real big next step will be portable ADS-B. Traffic, terrain, and
weather, all in one unit. I'm guessing $5000 or so, and it would be a
steal even at that price.

-cwk.

Man, I wonder if it will interface with my autopilot. My old King
KLN90B is not that reliable any more. I am wondering if I could chuck
it and get a 396. I don't do GPS approaches, but do use the King to
back up my ILS's and VORs and mostly use it on long trips with the
autopilot.

Doug wrote:

Man, I wonder if it will interface with my autopilot. My old King
KLN90B is not that reliable any more. I am wondering if I could chuck
it and get a 396. I don't do GPS approaches, but do use the King to
back up my ILS's and VORs and mostly use it on long trips with the
autopilot.

It has a USB output, that gets kinda cludgy converting to RS232 or
whatever you'd need to drive the AP...

It's also got two wires (serial?) for connecting to an autopilot.

And I know that because I downloaded the manual yesterday, almost as soon as
Garmin put it up.

There is a great deal of gloating in that last statement...



"Darrel Toepfer" wrote in message
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Doug wrote:

Man, I wonder if it will interface with my autopilot. My old King
KLN90B is not that reliable any more. I am wondering if I could chuck
it and get a 396. I don't do GPS approaches, but do use the King to
back up my ILS's and VORs and mostly use it on long trips with the
autopilot.

It has a USB output, that gets kinda cludgy converting to RS232 or
whatever you'd need to drive the AP...

wrote:



It's been my impression that as serious capability upgrades are
introduced to the PDA software, the hardware requirements grow with it.
As a result, if you bought a PDA solution 3 years back, and wanted to
upgrade the software now, wouldn't you find yourself upgrading the PDA
too?


Yep, but a top of the line PDA today is $400. Your old one will fetch
$100-150 on ebay.

Jonathan Goodish wrote:

That all being said, Garmin produces a very good, polished navigation
system that is hard to beat--in my opinion, none of the PDA-based
software products does navigation as cleanly.

That's true, but I still want a feature available via the PDA route and not
via the Garmin route: a backup AI. But then I fly club airplanes with 430s
installed, so when I think "handheld GPS" I'm thinking "backup"...and I
want as much backup as possible.

- Andrew