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Old July 22nd 05, 10:09 PM
gregg
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Jose wrote:

It IS irrational. Mourning is an entirely emotional, non-rational (that
is, irrational) process.


However, attepmting to prevent something which would cause one to mourn
is entirely rational.

Jose


Jose,

Exactly.

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Old July 20th 05, 09:14 PM
Corky Scott
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:31:02 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote:

It IS irrational. Mourning is an entirely emotional, non-rational (that is,
irrational) process.

It seems many people in this thread would benefit from consulting a
dictionary and reading up on the definition of "irrational". In particular,
to note that there are several definitions, not all of which imply insanity.
Those people seem to think that being "irrational" is somehow something to
be avoided. The fact is, as human beings, we act irrationally all the time.

Get over it.


Pete, not sure that mourning equals irrationality. Mourning is an
emotion and emotions are normally pretty unrestrained and
uncontrollable. There's really nothing irrational about it, it's kind
of automatic.

We may act irrationally frequently, as human beings, but mourning is
not rational or irrational, it just is.

Corky Scott


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Old July 22nd 05, 10:09 PM
gregg
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Peter Duniho wrote:

"Ken" wrote in message
...
Most parents would mourn the death of their young child. By your
logic, such mourning would be "irrational"


It IS irrational. Mourning is an entirely emotional, non-rational (that
is, irrational) process.


I suspect not. I suspect it has strong evolutionary origins:

mourning..feeling badly about a dead offspring - tells parents that keeping
offspring alive is a Good Thing (tm).

I suspect it's entirely rational.



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Old July 23rd 05, 11:37 AM
gregg
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Peter Duniho wrote:

It seems many people in this thread would benefit from consulting a
dictionary and reading up on the definition of "irrational". In
particular, to note that there are several definitions, not all of which
imply insanity. Those people seem to think that being "irrational" is
somehow something to
be avoided. The fact is, as human beings, we act irrationally all the
time.



Except that you also used the word "insane" when referring to people's
responses to a cracked up plane.

You can play word games all you want with "irrational" - although I suspect
most consider it a pejorative.

But not with the word "insane".

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Restoration of my 82 year old Herreshoff S-Boat sailboat:

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Steambending FAQ with photos:

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Old July 23rd 05, 06:08 PM
Peter Duniho
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"gregg" wrote in message
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Except that you also used the word "insane" when referring to people's
responses to a cracked up plane.


I used the word with exactly the same definition as that used by the post to
which I replied. If you have a complaint about the usage, direct your
complaint to the person who originally used the word.

What this has to do with the definition of "irrational" is beyond me.

Pete


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Old July 23rd 05, 11:55 PM
gregg
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Peter Duniho wrote:

"gregg" wrote in message
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Except that you also used the word "insane" when referring to people's
responses to a cracked up plane.


I used the word with exactly the same definition as that used by the post
to
which I replied. If you have a complaint about the usage, direct your
complaint to the person who originally used the word.

What this has to do with the definition of "irrational" is beyond me.

Pete



Here is exactly what you said:

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 at 12:00:02 in message
, Peter Duniho
wrote:
What's insane is thinking that it's for some reason important to preserve
these planes. As I already pointed out, if they were so important to
preserve, we shouldn't have been building them to be destroyed in the first
place.


Those are your words no one elses. YOU said it was insane to think it's
important to save those planes.

Don't blame someone else for a word you chose to use.

What it has to do with irrational is that you used both to describe your
viewpoint of the same phenomenon. Above, you said it was insane. Other
places you said it's irrational.

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Saville

Replicas of 15th-19th century nautical navigational instruments:

http://home.comcast.net/~saville/backstaffhome.html

Restoration of my 82 year old Herreshoff S-Boat sailboat:

http://home.comcast.net/~saville/SBOATrestore.htm

Steambending FAQ with photos:

http://home.comcast.net/~saville/Steambend.htm

 




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