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Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
Assuming VMC conditions, is it legal for a current IR pilot to file an IFR flight plan, and fly the flight *solo* wearing a hood, to meet currency requirements? Of course the hood would be off for take-off It's risky. ptomblin wrote: [...] How could you have passed your Private Pilot written without understanding that ATC has no responsibility for separation between VFR and IFR traffic? But in US class B/C (and Canada class C), they do take on that responsibility. Well yes and no, when I've been under the hood in C when they clear me for the approach one of the instructions is almost always "maintain VFR" . |
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xyzzy wrote:
Well yes and no, when I've been under the hood in C when they clear me for the approach one of the instructions is almost always "maintain VFR" . When on an IFR flight plan? ![]() The OP was asking about filing and flying IFR, and then using a hood. -- Peter ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Brien K. Meehan" wrote in message
oups.com... No, you'd be violating 91.113(b). "...vigilance shall be maintained" is somewhat subjective. One could argue that most pilots bust that one on every flight. What if you pop the hood up every 30 seconds? Fortunately 91.109(b) requires no interpretaion whatsoever: (b) No person may operate a civil aircraft in simulated instrument flight unless- (1) The other control seat is occupied by a safety pilot who possesses at least a private pilot certificate with category and class ratings appropriate to the aircraft being flown. (2) The safety pilot has adequate vision forward and to each side of the aircraft, or a competent observer in the aircraft adequately supplements the vision of the safety pilot; and (3) Except in the case of lighter-than-air aircraft, that aircraft is equipped with fully functioning dual controls... (Sorry, now I note that Gary has already cited that one.) Julian |
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:03:55 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote: No. ****ing. Way. Of course. Sorry guys. For those who were somewhat stunned, it was a hypothetical question, and a very stupid one at that. In IMC, all flights are supposed to be under control of ATC, in VMC, not. |
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S Herman wrote:
In IMC, all flights are supposed to be under control of ATC, in VMC, not. Huh (to the second part of your statement)? -- Peter ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Peter R. wrote:
xyzzy wrote: Well yes and no, when I've been under the hood in C when they clear me for the approach one of the instructions is almost always "maintain VFR" . When on an IFR flight plan? ![]() No. The OP was asking about filing and flying IFR, and then using a hood. That's different. never mind ![]() |
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Julian Scarfe wrote:
"Brien K. Meehan" wrote in message oups.com... No, you'd be violating 91.113(b). "...vigilance shall be maintained" is somewhat subjective. One could argue that most pilots bust that one on every flight. What if you pop the hood up every 30 seconds? Fortunately 91.109(b) requires no interpretaion whatsoever: (b) No person may operate a civil aircraft in simulated instrument flight unless- (1) The other control seat is occupied by a safety pilot who possesses at least a private pilot certificate with category and class ratings appropriate to the aircraft being flown. (2) The safety pilot has adequate vision forward and to each side of the aircraft, or a competent observer in the aircraft adequately supplements the vision of the safety pilot; and (3) Except in the case of lighter-than-air aircraft, that aircraft is equipped with fully functioning dual controls... bummer for throwover-yoke Bo pilots |
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Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
US Class C? I don't think so. How do you read AIM 3-2-4 e, which reads "... VFR aircraft are separated from IFR aircraft ..."? I wasn't reading but considering now [...] I can just see plugging along with a hood on in VFR while some guy in 2 way radio contact is transiting the Class C. The original poster was considering practicing with a hood, while under an active IFR flight plan. Your scenario is different. I meant to say "plugging along with a hood on in VMC..." I'm thinking of the guy who is plugging along on an IFR plan in VMC while a VFR guy enters the Class C based on his initial call being acknowledged before his location is known or radar contact is made. Thinking that Class C entry is permitted once your call is ack'd with your call sign |
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:47:59 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote: S Herman wrote: In IMC, all flights are supposed to be under control of ATC, in VMC, not. Huh (to the second part of your statement)? Uh, maybe more foot -in-my-mouth? :-) I mean that it's illegal to be in IMC without a clearance, IOW, under the control of ATC. But in VMC it's highly probable, outside of B airspace, that there are aircraft not under ATC control. |
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On 7/28/2005 12:53, S Herman wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:47:59 -0400, "Peter R." wrote: S Herman wrote: In IMC, all flights are supposed to be under control of ATC, in VMC, not. Huh (to the second part of your statement)? Uh, maybe more foot -in-my-mouth? :-) I mean that it's illegal to be in IMC without a clearance, IOW, under the control of ATC. Actually, that's not quite true. You are required to have an IFR flight plan and ATC clearance before you can fly in IMC within controlled airspace (or within Class A regardless of the weather). If you're outside controlled airspace, this rule doesn't apply. But ... that's a whole 'nuther can-o-worms ;-) But in VMC it's highly probable, outside of B airspace, that there are aircraft not under ATC control. -- Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Student Sacramento, CA |
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