737 off runway, Pearson Toronto

Peter,

Does ATC treat a PAN-PAN as an
emergency?


ATC can grade you as an emergency any time anyway, even without your
declaring it.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 22:16:35 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote:

What is interesting in the case of the KLM aircraft is that the pilot first
stated PAN-PAN, then continued by saying "Low fuel emergency."

What's beautiful about Pan is that the listener doesn't have to wait
for the explanation. His ears are up, his adrenaline is already
running, he KNOWS that this one is out of the ordinary and will
require his very best efforts.

Whereas: XXXX, This is / I am --- is so much wasted talk. That's why
we have these MAYDAY and PAN calls (and, in maritime, SECURITE as
well).


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Cub Driver wrote:
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 22:16:35 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote:

Whereas: XXXX, This is / I am --- is so much wasted talk. That's why
we have these MAYDAY and PAN calls (and, in maritime, SECURITE as
well).

Just for the sake of pedantry, Securite is a little different, used to
alert other vessels to a potential danger as opposed to requesting
assistance with an existing situation. For instance, a large vessel
backing out of its slip into a high-traffic area might announce their
intentions preceded by "security, security, security" in order to make
sure everyone pays attention.

-cwk.