Iran resumes atomic work, escalates crisis

babygrand wrote:
Don't think the Israelis are gonna sit around waiting for us to take care of
this. They will pop the Iranians in a heartbeat, just like they did Iraq's
reactor. We could learn a lot from the IDF, they WILL do what it takes to
protect themselves from the Islamic scum. That's one reason they are so
hated in the Middle East, they don't **** around with these assholes.

babygrand


And just how do the Israelis get to Iran? The attack on the Iraqi
reactor was at the limit of their range.. Going something like twice the
distance..

It will be a one way trip... (probably)

"babygrand" wrote in message
...
Don't think the Israelis are gonna sit around waiting for us to take care
of
this. They will pop the Iranians in a heartbeat, just like they did
Iraq's
reactor. We could learn a lot from the IDF, they WILL do what it takes to
protect themselves from the Islamic scum. That's one reason they are so
hated in the Middle East, they don't **** around with these assholes.

babygrand


I agree. Because Israel is so small, it is a "one-bomb" country. All it
would take is one nuclear warhead to land in Tel Aviv and it would pretty
much be game over for that country. So Iran having nukes is a much bigger
threat to them than it is to the United States and they will probably treat
it as such. I am surprised they haven't done something about it already.

As far as the other poster who said that this will not be possible because
Iran is too far from Israel and beyond the range of the attack jets. Israel
has the ability to purchase a commercial airliner, take it over to IAI
(Israeli Aircraft Industries - a defense contractor) and have them convert
it into a tanker. I don't think that range will be a huge problem.

JD

In article kscMe.49158$E95.3667@fed1read01,
(Joe Delphi) wrote:

As far as the other poster who said that this will not be possible
because Iran is too far from Israel and beyond the range of the
attack jets. Israel has the ability to purchase a commercial
airliner, take it over to IAI (Israeli Aircraft Industries - a
defense contractor) and have them convert it into a tanker. I
don't think that range will be a huge problem.

Israel already has several US-style aerial tankers. Getting them into
the right place for the operation, however, fairly much requires using
Turkish, Iraqi or Saudi airspace. The Turks are unlikely to cooperate.
The Saudis most unlikely. The Iraqis don't have the capability to
cooperate or not; the USA has effective control of their airspace.

So, any Israeli attack on Iraq requires US cooperation and implicitly,
endorsement. Does the USA want to take things that far just at present?
The Iraqi insurgency will get a lot worse, for starters.

Bear in mind that a US attack would probably be attributed to the Israelis
by at least some parties in the Middle East - same types of planes, and
markings are easy to change. Indeed, if the USA wanted to make an attack
on Iran that definitely couldn't have been Israeli, it needs to use
weapons that the Israelis don't possess. This isn't all that hard -
Tomahawks, B-1B, B-2A - but it does require some attention.

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On the Road to World War 3 (for Israel and oil in accordance with
JINSA/CSP/PNAC Neocon agenda):

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39862

http://nomorewarforisrael.blogspot.com

Subject: U.S. Prepared to Grab Iran's Southwesten Oil Rich Providence
after Saturation Bombings

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/



August 10, 2005 -- U.S. prepared to grab Iran's southwestern majority
Arab and oil-rich province after saturation bombing of Iranian nuclear,
chemical, and command, control, communications & intelligence (C3I)
targets. According to sources within the German Federal Intelligence
Service (Bundesnachrichtendienst - BND), the Bush administration has
drawn up plans to hit Iran's nuclear, other WMD, and military sites
with heavy saturation bombing using bunker buster bombs and tactical
nuclear weapons. The attack will be coordinated with urban and rural
critical infrastructure sabotage carried out by elements of the
People's Mujaheddin (MEK), Pentagon Special Operations units, and other
Iranian dissident groups. The German intelligence comes from classified
briefings provided by elements within the CIA that are concerned the
neocons in the Bush administration will, in attacking Iran, set off a
chain of events that will lead to world war. Intelligence on U.S. plans
to attack Iran has also been passed by CIA agents to counterparts in
France, Britain, Canada, and Australia. The Bush war plans for Iran
also entail quickly seizing Iran's southwestern Khuzestan Province,
where most of Iran's oil reserves and refineries are located. Khuzestan
has a majority Shia Arab population that has close links with their
ethnic and religious brethren in Iraq. The Bush plans call for a U.S.
military strike across the Iraqi border and from naval forces in the
Persian Gulf in answer to an appeal for assistance from the Al Ahwaz
Popular Democratic Front and Liberation Organization rebel forces in
Khuzestan, which will declare an independent Arab state of the
Democratic Republic of Ahwaz and receive diplomatic recognition from
the United States and a few close U.S. allies. After World War I,
Khuzestan was annexed by Iran, then called Persia. There are also plans
to incite rebellions among Iran's other minorities, including Azeris
and Turkmenis in the oil-rich Caspian Sea region. Other minorities
targeted by the neo-con planners are Iranian Kurds along the Iraqi and
Turkish borders and Baluchis along the border with Pakistan. The
neo-con plan seeks to separate Iran from its oil resources and create
an "Irani triangle" centered around Teheran, Isfahan, Qom, and other
historically Persian centers. In anticipation of the U.S. attack, the
spy sub USS Jimmy Carter has placed taps on undersea communications
cables in the Persian Gulf that carry Iranian commercial, diplomatic,
and military traffic. In addition, Task Force 121 covert paramilitary
forces have scouted Iran using the cover of journalists and businessmen
to pinpoint military targets.

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Who's Behind the Coming War with Iran?

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39666

Truthseeker wrote:
Iran resumes atomic work, escalates crisis:

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39818

A crisis? I'm beginning to wonder. The press has gotten to the
point of crying the sky is falling every five minutes. Iran does
not think that the US will take military action and if the US does take
action it will be limited and only cement the power of the right-wingers.
Unlike the Western powers they aren't afraid of taking casualties.
Now, if they thought their government buildings might be flattened with
them in them or that the US actually would invade to establish democracy
they might desist in nuke developement but they think that America has
shot its wad by its expenditure of resources in Iraq and does not have
the will to invade or even bomb...and therefore they are willing to take
the calculated risk.
And there is a possibility that the US really doesn't fear Iran's
nuclear power but is just using the "crisis" as a political chess piece.
Who's Behind the Coming War With Iran?:

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/horton.php?articleid=6888

No one. Its not going to happen unless something extreme happens such as
another successful terrorist attack that really ****es off the US.

http://nomorewarforisrael.blogspot.com

US Support of Israel is the Gorilla in the Room:

Well, the US is not going to stop supporting Israel. If it was nothing
else, it would just a matter of national pride. The US will not abandon
Israel even in the face of nuclear threat.
It is just a fact everyone needs to get used to.


http://representativepress.blogspot....pport-for.html

The following URL includes the latest that I have on Plame-gate:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0...ic.php?t=38213

I am politically independent, but the more I have read about the
situation, the more disgusting the actions of Rove and Novak appear. I
used to like Novak, but regardless of how "harmless" the particular
action turned out to be, even if Plame was not an active 'operative',
the mere fact that Rove and Novak would "out" any member of the CIA for
any purpose is utterly rephrehensible. It is a sign of supreme
arrogance. Both of these men have proven themselves to have no class
and are an embarrassment to the nation.

old hoodoo wrote:
...
The following URL includes the latest that I have on Plame-gate:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0...ic.php?t=38213

I am politically independent, but the more I have read about the
situation, the more disgusting the actions of Rove and Novak appear. I
used to like Novak, but regardless of how "harmless" the particular
action turned out to be, even if Plame was not an active 'operative',
the mere fact that Rove and Novak would "out" any member of the CIA for
any purpose is utterly rephrehensible. It is a sign of supreme
arrogance. Both of these men have proven themselves to have no class
and are an embarrassment to the nation.

Just consider the immorality demonstrated by taking
revenge on a man by attacking his wife.

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FF