Steven P, McNicoll just ****ed me off

I understand what you are saying..I've been on planes that kept rolling
turned, and took off....

But this guy floored it before the turn was even made. Full throttle.

"Stefan" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:

On the way out, we were in an MD80 or something. The Plane was waiting
to pull onto the runway. The engines revved up, and the plane
accelerated, kept going, turned 45 degrees, and launched down the runway.
I've never been in a plane that accelerated through the turn onto the
runway. He never slowed down, or stopped accelerating from the hold
position. Freaked me out.

Pretty standard procedure in many airports. Why stopping again when you're
already rolling and all checks have been done?

Stefan

Hey, when you are at The Duke's airport, you take those chances, pilgrim.
Got it?

{;^)

Jim


"Dave" wrote in message
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I understand what you are saying..I've been on planes that kept rolling
turned, and took off....

But this guy floored it before the turn was even made. Full throttle.

Dave wrote on 08/17/05 15:15:

I understand what you are saying..I've been on planes that kept rolling
turned, and took off....

But this guy floored it before the turn was even made. Full throttle.


Otherwise, he wouldn't have made it off the runway...
Someday, somebody ends up on the freeway at the end. The runway is
awfully short.
But the local population didn't want to have the El Toro base converted
to a civilian airport.

-Joe

Joe Feise wrote:
Otherwise, he wouldn't have made it off the runway...
Someday, somebody ends up on the freeway at the end. The runway is
awfully short.
But the local population didn't want to have the El Toro base converted
to a civilian airport.


Ever been to Grand Cayman? I flew down there once on a Cayman Airways B-727 and
when we got stopped and turned to taxi back to the terminal, the right wing was
hanging over the water at the end of the strip.

I know I was impressed.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

In article , Dave
wrote:

On the way out, we were in an MD80 or something. The Plane was waiting to
pull onto the runway. The engines revved up, and the plane accelerated,
kept going, turned 45 degrees, and launched down the runway. I've never
been in a plane that accelerated through the turn onto the runway. He never
slowed down ... Freaked me out.

My guess is the radio exchange was something like this:

ATC: Airliner XXXX, can you take it on the roll? There's a G-4 just
inside a 2-mile final.

Airliner: Affirmative, we're ready.

ATC: Airliner XXXX, cleared for immediate takeoff, traffic a Gulfstream
IV on a mile-and-a-half final.



Basically, it was go now, or wait several minutes wasting time and fuel
at the hold short line. I've done the same thing.

--
Garner R. Miller
ATP/CFII/MEI
Clifton Park, NY =USA=

I had that conversation at an airport outside Atlanta this spring.

N6205Y, you ready to go? We're gonna shoot you out of here fast, once
cleared for take off, do NOT, repeat do NOT stop on the runway, traffic is a
xxxsuperjet on a x mile final. I need a tight left turn out when able.

Cessna took the runway in front of me, once he was airborne, Tower told me
ready set go and I was gone. Did a short field take off, and a max
performance climbing left turn. We got a "yee-haw" from somebody and a
"thank-you very much" from the tower.

Jim

Garner Miller wrote:

Basically, it was go now, or wait several minutes wasting time and fuel
at the hold short line. I've done the same thing.

I got that at RDU once. They told me to expedite 'cause a Delta 737 was on a
four mile final. I was 400' up when I passed the tower.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

George Patterson wrote:
Basically, it was go now, or wait several minutes wasting time and fuel
at the hold short line. I've done the same thing.

I got that at RDU once. They told me to expedite 'cause a Delta 737 was on a
four mile final. I was 400' up when I passed the tower.


I had a courier job once where I flew out of RDU five days a week. On numerous
occasions I was given a "go now or hold your piece (spelling intentional)". I'd
forego the wake separation, blast off and turn onto course once I was 20 feet or
so in the air... getting away from the centerline ASAP so someone else could use
it. Sometimes they'd let me go before an airliner that got there first simply
because they knew I wouldn't be a factor for very long at all. The airliners
couldn't do the same.

My cancelled checks sitting in the back never complained.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote:

George Patterson wrote:

Basically, it was go now, or wait several minutes wasting time and
fuel at the hold short line. I've done the same thing.

I got that at RDU once. They told me to expedite 'cause a Delta 737
was on a four mile final. I was 400' up when I passed the tower.

I had a courier job once where I flew out of RDU five days a week. On
numerous occasions I was given a "go now or hold your piece (spelling
intentional)". I'd forego the wake separation, blast off and turn
onto course once I was 20 feet or so in the air... getting away from
the centerline ASAP so someone else could use it. Sometimes they'd
let me go before an airliner that got there first simply because they
knew I wouldn't be a factor for very long at all. The airliners
couldn't do the same.

My cancelled checks sitting in the back never complained.

Do such actions also help explain the high fatality rate of commercial
pilots, one of the highest rates of any occupation?

"Dave" wrote in message
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Anyone familiar with this?

Dave

I've been on airliners where they did this. I guess if they're already
rolling why stop and start up again.