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Old August 26th 05, 04:09 PM
Matt Barrow
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"N93332" wrote in message
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"Seth Masia" wasted electrons writing in message:
I am flying less, using the plane only for necessary trips and making my
hamburgers at home.


What are 'necessary trips' via plane?


Business. Like, to places 450 miles away in which the nearest direct airline
served city is the one you live in.


Matt
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Old August 26th 05, 04:01 PM
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"Seth Masia" wrote in message
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Well, all that may be true, but rising fuel prices are now cutting into
corporate profits, which will affect the stock market. See the NYT piece

http://www.mywesttexas.com/site/news... 474107&rfi=6

I like your point about the fact that we're now using energy about twice

as
efficiently as we did 30 years ago. Note that the economy hasn't suffered
as a result. Which raises the question, what the hell was the

administration
talking about when it refused to promote further conservation measures on
the grounds that they'd hurt the economy? Could it be because this
administration is a parasite on oil industryn profits?


Probably because a whole slew of studies have shown conservation is only a
stop-gap at best.


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Old August 27th 05, 09:13 AM
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"Seth Masia" wrote in
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Snipola
through two (smallish) automobiles and a motorcycle. But this summer
I've been riding the bike a lot (40 mpg) and commuting on my bicycle

Snipola

Just out of curiosity, what kind of M/C and how do you ride it? That
is, how hard are you on the throttle?

Driving hard on my '86 Harley Sportster my long term average mileage
is around 40mpg. That's with high speed freeway driving and hard
acceleration off the stop lights. When I was a younger rider and
didn't drive so hard* my mileage was closer to 60mpg. Record was
88mpg while sightseeing in the mountains at 40mph.

*(ie hadn't learned to be afraid of other cars yet, which is why
I drive so hard now)

The reason I ask is because other motorcyclists I've talked to about
mileage always seemed to think 40mpg was really good, whereas I've
always thought it was lousy, but recognize it as due to my heavy
hand on the throttle.

Brian
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Old August 26th 05, 03:32 PM
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And I don't see anyone flying less.

I do. A friend of mine is selling his Baron, and it barely leaves the
hangar now. He can't afford the gas anymore. He's decided his Harley
is more bang for the buck at 40 mph.

Another friend of mine is selling his Bonanza. Same basic reason.

I'm seeing quite a few people flying less, and the gas price is a major
factor.

Michael

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Old August 26th 05, 11:08 PM
Eduardo K.
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In article .com,
Michael wrote:
And I don't see anyone flying less.


I do. A friend of mine is selling his Baron, and it barely leaves the
hangar now. He can't afford the gas anymore. He's decided his Harley
is more bang for the buck at 40 mph.

Another friend of mine is selling his Bonanza. Same basic reason.

I'm seeing quite a few people flying less, and the gas price is a major
factor.


In some more time cars will eb affected too by the gas prices. I just bought
a big car less than half bluebook because everybody is dumping cars
that get less than 30/35mpg. Top seller is the Toyota Yaris (cheaper
version of the Echo) at 40mpg and the Fiat Palio at 38mpg.

(down here is Chile, SouthAmerica, where gas has now reached 1.25 us dolars
a liter. US$5 a galon.)




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Old August 26th 05, 11:58 PM
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:08:32 +0000 (UTC), Eduardo K.
wrote:


In some more time cars will eb affected too by the gas prices. I just bought
a big car less than half bluebook because everybody is dumping cars
that get less than 30/35mpg. Top seller is the Toyota Yaris (cheaper
version of the Echo) at 40mpg and the Fiat Palio at 38mpg.

(down here is Chile, SouthAmerica, where gas has now reached 1.25 us dolars
a liter. US$5 a galon.)


Welcome back to the NG.

Don

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Old August 27th 05, 01:53 AM
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In article ,
Don Tuite wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:08:32 +0000 (UTC), Eduardo K.
wrote:


In some more time cars will eb affected too by the gas prices. I just bought
a big car less than half bluebook because everybody is dumping cars
that get less than 30/35mpg. Top seller is the Toyota Yaris (cheaper
version of the Echo) at 40mpg and the Fiat Palio at 38mpg.

(down here is Chile, SouthAmerica, where gas has now reached 1.25 us dolars
a liter. US$5 a galon.)


Welcome back to the NG.


thanks. i am always lurking

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Old August 26th 05, 03:47 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Everywhere, every day on the radio, television, and in the
newspapers, all I hear is how the "Record Price of Oil" is killing
America.
Yet, strangely, Americans keep driving *more*. And I don't see anyone
flying less.


It was the major factor in my decision to sell my flying club share; I'm
out.

So why is everything doom and gloom in the media? Why are none of
these facts brought to the fore? Is it a not-so-hidden agenda? An
ax to grind? Or is it that Americans are just not happy unless
they've got something to bitch about?


Fuel went up 50% in the past year with a well-connected-to-the-oil-companies
president at the helm, with these same companies making record profits. The
agenda is not-so-hidden, is it?

Get out and fly, people! Life is good!


Definitely do it while you can. Fuel aside, GA is nearing it's end. Go
Bush! And take Cheney with you.



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Old August 26th 05, 04:25 PM
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"JohnH" wrote in message
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Fuel went up 50% in the past year with a

well-connected-to-the-oil-companies
president at the helm,


Gee..the prices went up WORLD WIDE! Is he president of the World?

with these same companies making record profits. The
agenda is not-so-hidden, is it?


But we fought Iraq for cheap oil!!!

Your apparent comprehension of world oil markets/prices reminds me of the
snippets my senile uncle sends me about not buying gas on certain days.


Get out and fly, people! Life is good!


Definitely do it while you can. Fuel aside, GA is nearing it's end. Go
Bush! And take Cheney with you.


Yeah, let's have Kerry or Gore, both of whom said we should be paying $5 a
gallon (and also said they would work to reduce oil costs when that barfed
on them.

Go ask your teachers is this is what you REALLY think.


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Old August 26th 05, 07:14 PM
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:25:31 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
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But we fought Iraq for cheap oil!!!


I could have sworn our fearless leader, and his worthy staff kept
saying we had to invade to find Iraq's weapons of mass destruction,
and because Iraq was a terrorist nation.

Was he, what's that word I'm looking for, I don't know... oh yeh,
WRONG?

"We know they have weapons of mass destruction, and we know where they
ARE!!" Donald Rumsfeld.

“There’s a lot of money to pay for this that doesn’t have to be U.S.
taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people…and
on a rough recollection, the oil revenues of that country could bring
between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three
years…We’re dealing with a country that can really finance its own
reconstruction, and relatively soon.” Deputy Defense Secretary Paul
Wolfowitz: [Source: House Committee on Appropriations Hearing on a
Supplemental War Regulation, 3/27/03]

Corky Scott
 




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