TAF KNBG

In a previous article, "Gerry Caron" said:
It's been hard to avoid the Hurricane Katrina coverage, but somehow the raw
numbers have a real impact over the media hype. The forecast shows eye
passage about 1630-1830Z tomorrow. Here's the TAF from New Orleans NAS:
KNBG 282121 06015G25KT 9000 BR SCT030 BKN050 OVC080 QHN2960INS VCTS
TEMPO 2202 VRB30G45KT 1600 SHRA BR SCT005 OVC010CB/
BECMG 0204 06040G55 SCT005 OVC010 QNH2900INS
TEMPO 0206 VRB50G70KT 1600 TSRA BR SCT005 OVC010CB
BECMG 0507 VRB115G130KT 0400 +TSRAGR BR SCT005 OVC010CB QNH2860INS
TEMPO 0509 +FC
BECMG 0910 QNH2750INS
TEMPO 0915 +FC
BECMG 1516 120145G175KT 0100 +SHRA BR SCT005 OVC010 QNH2663INS
FM1630 VRB06KT 9999 SCT300 QNH2668INS
FM1830 270140G160KT 0100 +TSRA BR SCT005 OVC010CB QNH2672INS T24/11Z
T34/20Z

Read the National Weather Service "Urgent Weather Message" at
http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/iwsz...tes=:laz069#t3
Usually they don't go in for hyperbole, and this is scary ****:

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
619 AM CDT MON AUG 29 2005


EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA MOVING ACROSS LOWER
PLAQUEMINES PARISH

DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A
FEW POSSIBLY TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. MANY WINDOWS WILL
BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY
VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED.

LAZ037040-049-050-057070-MSZ070-071-077-080082-291700-
ASCENSION-HANCOCK-HARRISON-JACKSON-LIVINGSTON-LOWER JEFFERSON-
LOWER LAFOURCHE-LOWER PLAQUEMINES-LOWER ST BERNARD-LOWER TERREBONNE-
ORLEANS-PEARL RIVER-PIKE-ST CHARLES-ST HELENA-ST JAMES-
ST JOHN THE BAPTIST-ST TAMMANY-TANGIPAHOA-UPPER JEFFERSON-
UPPER LAFOURCHE-UPPER PLAQUEMINES-UPPER ST BERNARD-UPPER TERREBONNE-
WALTHALL-WASHINGTON-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...BILOXI...GULFPORT...BOGALUSA...
GRAND ISLE...HAMMOND...HOUMA...MCCOMB...METAIRIE...NEW ORLEANS...
PASCAGOULA...PICAYUNE...SLIDELL
619 AM CDT MON AUG 29 2005


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
C has features?? I thought the whole point of that language was to
offer nothing but bare metal.
-- David P. Murphy

ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED.

Bull****.

Uninhabitable and therefore have to be destroyed may be closer to the
truth, but having seen what Ivan did on the Florida Panhandle, don't be
surprised when "all" and "destroyed" happens.

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...

ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED.

Bull****.

On 2005-08-29, Dan Luke wrote:

ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED.

Bull****.

Not at all. If the hurricane had remained a category 5 storm,
overpressures of 4-5 psi could be expected. This is sufficient to destroy
a timber frame building. It's about equivalent to the blast that would
be felt about 2.5 miles from a 100kt nuclear explosion.

Fortunately, it seems to have lost strength when it made landfall.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

Well, at least "some" we
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/photos_ts/mdf47701

Marco



"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
...
On 2005-08-29, Dan Luke wrote:

ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED.

Bull****.

Not at all. If the hurricane had remained a category 5 storm,
overpressures of 4-5 psi could be expected. This is sufficient to destroy
a timber frame building. It's about equivalent to the blast that would
be felt about 2.5 miles from a 100kt nuclear explosion.

Fortunately, it seems to have lost strength when it made landfall.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"



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In a previous article, "Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com said:
Well, at least "some" we
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/photos_ts/mdf47701

And on-topic:
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/u...3.jim.jiao.jpg


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"GNU is not Linux - Linux has a kernel that boots" - Chris Thompson

"Dylan Smith" wrote:
ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED.

Bull****.

Not at all. If the hurricane had remained a category 5 storm,
overpressures of 4-5 psi could be expected. This is sufficient to
destroy
a timber frame building. It's about equivalent to the blast that would
be felt about 2.5 miles from a 100kt nuclear explosion.

Well, it says, "ALL." Hurricane damage simply doesn't work that way.
It is freakishly spotty even in a very bad storm.

Fortunately, it seems to have lost strength when it made landfall.

Yes. If it had come ashore with a central pressure of 902 mb, things
could have been far worse than even the catastrophic damage we are
seeing.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Andrew drove a major upgrading of Florida building codes to make
structures more hurricane resistant. After the 2004 season, you could
easily spot in aerial photographs pre and post Andrew neighborhoods and
developments. Considering that New Orleans and surrounding area is for
the most part not recent construction, all is certainly possible.

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...

"Dylan Smith" wrote:
ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED.

Bull****.

Not at all. If the hurricane had remained a category 5 storm,
overpressures of 4-5 psi could be expected. This is sufficient to
destroy
a timber frame building. It's about equivalent to the blast that
would
be felt about 2.5 miles from a 100kt nuclear explosion.

Well, it says, "ALL." Hurricane damage simply doesn't work that way.
It is freakishly spotty even in a very bad storm.

Fortunately, it seems to have lost strength when it made landfall.

Yes. If it had come ashore with a central pressure of 902 mb, things
could have been far worse than even the catastrophic damage we are
seeing.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

On 2005-08-30, Dan Luke wrote:

"Dylan Smith" wrote:
ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED.

Bull****.

Not at all. If the hurricane had remained a category 5 storm,
overpressures of 4-5 psi could be expected. This is sufficient to
destroy
a timber frame building. It's about equivalent to the blast that would
be felt about 2.5 miles from a 100kt nuclear explosion.

Well, it says, "ALL." Hurricane damage simply doesn't work that way.
It is freakishly spotty even in a very bad storm.

In a city below sea level? Imagine if it had hit as a Category 5 storm
with a central pressure of 902mb - it's not just the wind, it's the deep
floodwaters being driven by these savage winds too. The floodwaters will
easily see off any building that the winds didn't. Even if a flooded
timber frame building manages to survive being lashed by Category 5
winds and 18 feet of flood water, when the water recedes (weeks later!)
it'll have to be pulled down anyway. A building that is so badly damaged
that it needs to be demolished is effectively destroyed.

If it takes as long as some of the doomsayers are saying to drain the
flooded parts of the city, I suspect most of the houses currently
flooded to roof level aren't going to be structurally sound.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

Dan Luke wrote:

Well, it says, "ALL." Hurricane damage simply doesn't work that way.

Well, we had 90% destruction where the center hit, so I'd say that "all" would
be correct.

George Patterson
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