EPA update

How freaking stupid.
Let the FBO sale the fuel. Even if the truck accidentally dumped the whole
truck it wouldn't hurt the ground water.
I would be more worried about someone's septic tank.

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
Well, I did hear back from the EPA concerning a local GA airport's efforts
to get an exemption from regulations concerning fuel storage. You see,
one of my most annoying local airports sits atop an important aquifer that
supplies the whole region with groundwater. The local FBO's (who control
the airport board) want a certain regulation concerning fuel storage
voided so that they don't have to pay the cost of constructing a storage
area (and probably because they want to put hangars there, to generate
more profit).

Anyway, the EPA was already on to it. Their response was encouraging.
Here it is (with some minor blackouts -- don't want the poor EPA person to
receive threats from some of the whacko pilots, you know, so I blacked out
a few words...)


"skylune" (my real name was on the letter:

Thank you for the e-mail on August 3rd concerning xxx Airways, a
Fixed Base Operator (FBO) at the municipal airport in xxxxxxxxxxx. The
regulations that xxxxx referred to are the Oil
Pollution Prevention regulations, which are a part of the Clean Water
Act. Specifically, the regulations require the FBO to provide
secondary containment around their fuel trucks at night under their
Spill Prevention, Control, and Countermeasure (SPCC) Plan.

EPA-New England's Regional Administrator had recently received a letter
from Senator Judd Gregg, wherein he forwarded two form letters from
members of the aircraft refueling industry in New Hampshire. xxxxx
had sent one of those letters to Senator Gregg. Similar form letters
had been received at EPA headquarters in Washington DC from aircraft
refueling companies around the country.

This industry is taking exception to EPA's publication, in July of 2002,
of revised SPCC regulations. In the preamble to the regulations, EPA
re-stated its position that airport refueler trucks have always been
considered "mobile and portable tanks" under the SPCC regulations.
The refueling industry has disputed this since the regulations became
effective in 1974, and the debate was re-ignited.

You are correct to be concerned about fuel spills contaminating the
xxxxx aquifer, the main source of drinking water in the xxxxx
area. Such fuel spills, whether from fixed bulk storage tanks, or fuel
trucks left full of product overnight, have the same devastating effect
on groundwater quality. Rest assured that the EPA-New England region
is inspecting airports for SPCC compliance, and enforcing the
regulations at FBO's.
xxxxxx
Regional Spill-SPCC Enforcement Coordinator
xxxxx
xxxxx.gov


Nice job Senator. But I wrote that Senator at the same time, as well as
my other US Senator, Congressman, and state reps urging them to NOT relax
any EPA regulations for the financial benefit of the FBOs.

Buried home heating oil tanks are the environmental time bomb. In
theory, the stuff in the septic tank is biodegradable.

"Aluckyguess" wrote in message
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How freaking stupid.
Let the FBO sale the fuel. Even if the truck accidentally dumped the
whole truck it wouldn't hurt the ground water.
I would be more worried about someone's septic tank.

In article ,
"Aluckyguess" wrote:

How freaking stupid.
Let the FBO sale the fuel. Even if the truck accidentally dumped the whole
truck it wouldn't hurt the ground water.
I would be more worried about someone's septic tank.

Maybe you guys have a solution to the problem!

Does "Skylune" have a double-walled tank for his heating oil?
Is his septic tank up to spec?
Has the fire marshall paid him a visit?

IMHO, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander!

Skylune has stated he doesn't care about the pollution, he's simply trying
to drive the aviation industry under.

He cares nothing about the people he is trying to unemploy.

He cares nothing about the financial losses that he is trying to burden
pilots with.

He is 'getting even' with pilots for not stopping one guy with a loud, low
flying mooney.

"ORVAL FAIRAIRN" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Aluckyguess" wrote:

How freaking stupid.
Let the FBO sale the fuel. Even if the truck accidentally dumped the
whole
truck it wouldn't hurt the ground water.
I would be more worried about someone's septic tank.

Maybe you guys have a solution to the problem!

Does "Skylune" have a double-walled tank for his heating oil?
Is his septic tank up to spec?
Has the fire marshall paid him a visit?

IMHO, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander!

Steve: You seem like a reasonable guy. It is not one guy in his mooney
that have really gotten under my skin. (Besides, that jerk seems to have
abandoned his daily 4:55 am training sessions..). Its the Mooney, the
Bonanza, the idiot in the Pitts, the twin Otter, etc. I think about 90%
of the pilots who fly by my summer home try to "fly friendly." There are
the 10% of idiots who create a damned racket nearly every weekend. And,
the idiots at the airport authority have treated me and others I know who
have complained about noise, with utter contempt. So, this is my little
way of hitting back.

Ironically, the level of GA traffic seems to have dropped off quite a bit
over the last two years (maybe I can retire to my summer home afterall!).
Maybe the rising cost of AV gas, rising rental costs etc. are taking a toll
(the silver lining in $70/bbl crude)?

Skylune out.

Your 'little way of hitting back' is costing ME money. Where do you think
the FBO will get the money to pay for this secondary containment equipment?
You've touted the fact that you've reduced airport funding, so the only
source of funds left is from the FBO customers (ME).

The airport authority will turn around and show how they're being socially
responsible by making me pay for this equipment. As stated earlier, no
reported fuel spill has ever occurred that this equipment would prevent.
You're simply taking money from MY pocket because of the Mooney, the
Bonanza, the Pitts, The twin Otter and the etc.

Thanks loads.


"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
Steve: You seem like a reasonable guy. It is not one guy in his mooney
that have really gotten under my skin. (Besides, that jerk seems to have
abandoned his daily 4:55 am training sessions..). Its the Mooney, the
Bonanza, the idiot in the Pitts, the twin Otter, etc. I think about 90%
of the pilots who fly by my summer home try to "fly friendly." There are
the 10% of idiots who create a damned racket nearly every weekend. And,
the idiots at the airport authority have treated me and others I know who
have complained about noise, with utter contempt. So, this is my little
way of hitting back.

Ironically, the level of GA traffic seems to have dropped off quite a bit
over the last two years (maybe I can retire to my summer home afterall!).
Maybe the rising cost of AV gas, rising rental costs etc. are taking a
toll
(the silver lining in $70/bbl crude)?

Skylune out.

"Skylune" wrote
Steve: You seem like a reasonable guy. It is not one guy in his mooney
that have really gotten under my skin. (Besides, that jerk seems to have
abandoned his daily 4:55 am training sessions..). Its the Mooney, the
Bonanza, the idiot in the Pitts, the twin Otter, etc. I think about 90%
of the pilots who fly by my summer home try to "fly friendly." There are
the 10% of idiots who create a damned racket nearly every weekend. And,
the idiots at the airport authority have treated me and others I know who
have complained about noise, with utter contempt. So, this is my little
way of hitting back.

So my question to you is, was the airport already there when you bought your
summer home? If so, how can you whine about airplane noise without feeling
just a little bit stupid?

G. Raffe

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:20:29 -0400, "Skylune"
wrote:

Ironically, the level of GA traffic seems to have dropped off quite a bit
over the last two years (maybe I can retire to my summer home afterall!).
Maybe the rising cost of AV gas, rising rental costs etc. are taking a toll
(the silver lining in $70/bbl crude)?

Skylune out.

I'm missing something here, did someone promise you that if you
retired to your cabin, wherever that is, that you would never hear an
airplane?

Even mosquitos make noise.

Corky Scott

This has nothing to do with fuel storage. It is simply another jab at
aviation.

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...

You see, one of my most annoying local airports .................

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:h2gRe.20528$j41.3004@trndny05...
This has nothing to do with fuel storage. It is simply another jab at
aviation.

All I've seen is a major troll. Why announce all this stuff in an
aviation news group at all?