New Orleans Lakefront Airport

There are shortages in some markets like Baton Rouge but its not just
gasoline, its everything. I have a partner who lived in New Orleans and is
now in Houston, here are no suitable apartments availible in Houston or
hotel rooms. There are a lot of people on the move.

I've been watching the relief effort on TV. While the front line
police/fire/ambulence/NG people are all doing great things, the planning
authorities really f*cked this one up. If I was expecting ten thousand or
more people to show up somewhere and expected them to stay for more than a
couple of hours, I would at least have plenty of water on hand. If I had
ten thousand people without food or water and I had to move them, I wouldn't
take two days to get started and I wouldn't delay the evacuation to put FEMA
and US flag stickers on the buses first. If I had tens of thousands of
people without food, water, sanitation and without law enforcement, I
wouldn't activate the NG one unit at a time, I would activate them all at
once and try to borrow units from neighboring states too. Even us dopes in
N Idaho knew the Gulf Coast was going to get pasted several days beforehand.
Why does it seem that it was too complicated for the city/state/federal
professionaly to figure out what to do?

Mike
MU-2


"john smith" wrote in message
news
nrp wrote:
At least fuel is still available.

Hmmm??? Kinda makes one wonder if there really is a shortage, doesn't it?
If there were truely a shortage nationwide, wouldn't you expect many
stations to be closed?
How many gas stations in your area are closed because they cannot get gas?

The NG requires food and water and trucks that use gasoline on passable
roads. You can't bring warm bodies in to help until you have the support
they need to survive. The old saying is generals win battles and the
logistics types win wars.

The northern Idaho crystal ball is pretty damn good. Maybe you could
lend it to the National Weather Service. 72 hours before Katrina hit
New Orleans it was off Naples, Florida with hurricane watches and
warnings on the west coast of Florida. She didn't even get north of the
Tampa Bay latitude until early Sunday.

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
ink.net...
There are shortages in some markets like Baton Rouge but its not just
gasoline, its everything. I have a partner who lived in New Orleans
and is now in Houston, here are no suitable apartments availible in
Houston or hotel rooms. There are a lot of people on the move.

I've been watching the relief effort on TV. While the front line
police/fire/ambulence/NG people are all doing great things, the
planning authorities really f*cked this one up. If I was expecting
ten thousand or more people to show up somewhere and expected them to
stay for more than a couple of hours, I would at least have plenty of
water on hand. If I had ten thousand people without food or water and
I had to move them, I wouldn't take two days to get started and I
wouldn't delay the evacuation to put FEMA and US flag stickers on the
buses first. If I had tens of thousands of people without food,
water, sanitation and without law enforcement, I wouldn't activate the
NG one unit at a time, I would activate them all at once and try to
borrow units from neighboring states too. Even us dopes in N Idaho
knew the Gulf Coast was going to get pasted several days beforehand.
Why does it seem that it was too complicated for the
city/state/federal professionaly to figure out what to do?

Mike
MU-2


"john smith" wrote in message
news
nrp wrote:
At least fuel is still available.

Hmmm??? Kinda makes one wonder if there really is a shortage, doesn't
it?
If there were truely a shortage nationwide, wouldn't you expect many
stations to be closed?
How many gas stations in your area are closed because they cannot get
gas?

"nrp" wrote

At least fuel is still available.

That is not a given, in my area. The pipeline, we get most of our fuel
from, runs from Texas, through Louisiana, and Mississippi, among others, on
its way to the East coast. It is out of action, mainly due to no
electricity for the pumping stations. Tanker drivers are going from
terminal, to terminal, trying to find a place that will give them the fuel
that they need. When they do get fuel, it is not a full load.

I am deeply concerned, not only for the homeless along the coast, but for my
ability to be able to get to work, and for others and the economy around
here.

What will happen? I don't know.
--
Jim in NC

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...

"Morgans" wrote:

We all need to start serious conservation, and NOW. To delay will
only make
things worse.

Agree. An easy conservation move is simply to slow down. I'm driving
55--being passed by heedless nitwits still doing 80--until the current
unpleasantness is over.

Me too, and carpooling, when possible.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote


Yes the citizens of the New Orleans area are indeed suffering and there
has
been many the off topic post here talking about helping them BUT the
price
and availability of petro products is going to effect all of us including
them. There are some pretty bad worst case scenarios out there.

Damn straight. I don't like the price, but can and will pay it. When the
talk of massive shortages, due to the pipeline being down, and reduced
refinery output, you have to wonder if you will have enough gas to get to
work. What then?

We all need to start serious conservation, and NOW. To delay will only
make
things worse.
--
Jim in NC
--
Jim in NC


Too bad the president doesn't just come out and act Presidential and ask
everybody to try to cut their gasoline usage by 10% until the shortage is
resolved....Kennedy would have done this, Nixon would have, Carter would
have, Reagan would have...

Mike
MU-2

In article . net,
Mike Rapoport wrote:

Too bad the president doesn't just come out and act Presidential and ask
everybody to try to cut their gasoline usage by 10% until the shortage is
resolved....Kennedy would have done this, Nixon would have, Carter would
have, Reagan would have...


Bush is not the president. He just pretends to be.


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