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New Orleans: Fly low and slow over Convention Center to air drop?



 
 
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Old September 2nd 05, 03:34 PM
John Doe
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Wow, you have internet access inside the convention center?

wrote in message
ups.com...
I really can't stand the situation that is occuring in the Convention
Center. There are about two thousand at the Convention Center with NO
police or rescue personel onsite. Babies have no milk. At least two
dead bodies are there. An SUV with one police officer drove by and
raced away. One girl has been raped.

I don't know what the current flight restrictions are, but I'm looking
for pilot with plane who is willing to fly low and slow over the
Convention Center and drop out water purification kits, baby milk,
MREs, body bags, wire ties (for restraint).

There is a nurse in the crowd who needs Heart Medications and Insulin.

Campers use systems of two bags to filter the water. Put dirty water in
the top bag and it filters into the lower bag. Add some Emergency Water
Purifier (http://www.windupradio.com/Pristine/) and the water is
drinkable. One kit can make 60 gallons of drinking water.

It is obivous that the government can't handle this situation. I'm
willing to step up with 1000$ right now for an air drop and will have
4000$ available by Wednesday. The money can be used for fuel, items to
drop, etc.

Who is willing to step up with a plane and willing to go the extra
mile?


Duncan Moore




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Old September 2nd 05, 03:41 PM
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Katrina is an enormous challenge in logistics. New Orleans is at the
southern end of a very large damaged area. It takes time to clear roads,
inspect bridges, etc. I saw one photo where every single power pole for
a half mile or so was snapped off and lying across the road. Whether
that was a main road is unknown, but clearing that kind of damage takes
time.

You can't just run the National Guard in without food, water, fuel for
vehicles, places to rest else the NG becomes refugees within a couple of
days.

wrote in message
ups.com...
I really can't stand the situation that is occuring in the Convention
Center. There are about two thousand at the Convention Center with NO
police or rescue personel onsite. Babies have no milk. At least two
dead bodies are there. An SUV with one police officer drove by and
raced away. One girl has been raped.



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Old September 2nd 05, 09:29 PM
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From Drudge
The Caption Was:
Why Didn't You Deploy The Buses During The Mandantory Evacuation,
Mayor?...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...lpc21109012015

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Old September 2nd 05, 10:52 PM
Darrel Toepfer
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wrote:

From Drudge

The Caption Was:
Why Didn't You Deploy The Buses During The Mandantory Evacuation,
Mayor?...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...lpc21109012015

There are a bunch of city buses not far away either...

The mayor was pretty perturbed today during a WWL interview. You can
only pass the buck so many times...
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Old September 3rd 05, 02:02 AM
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"sfb" wrote in message newswZRe.8$Sx4.7@trnddc06...
Katrina is an enormous challenge in logistics. New Orleans is at the
southern end of a very large damaged area. It takes time to clear roads,
inspect bridges, etc. I saw one photo where every single power pole for
a half mile or so was snapped off and lying across the road. Whether
that was a main road is unknown, but clearing that kind of damage takes
time.

You can't just run the National Guard in without food, water, fuel for
vehicles, places to rest else the NG becomes refugees within a couple of
days.


Seems I remember seeing on quite a few occasions the NG bringing all that
stuff with them. Do they now stay at Hiltons and have their meals catered?



wrote in message
ups.com...
I really can't stand the situation that is occuring in the Convention
Center. There are about two thousand at the Convention Center with NO
police or rescue personel onsite. Babies have no milk. At least two
dead bodies are there. An SUV with one police officer drove by and
raced away. One girl has been raped.





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Old September 3rd 05, 03:27 AM
sfb
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You remember correctly, but it takes time to assemble troops in
armories, load vehicles, and move into the disaster areas clearing roads
and bridges of debris as necessary.

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
...

"sfb" wrote in message newswZRe.8$Sx4.7@trnddc06...
Katrina is an enormous challenge in logistics. New Orleans is at the
southern end of a very large damaged area. It takes time to clear
roads,
inspect bridges, etc. I saw one photo where every single power pole
for
a half mile or so was snapped off and lying across the road. Whether
that was a main road is unknown, but clearing that kind of damage
takes
time.

You can't just run the National Guard in without food, water, fuel
for
vehicles, places to rest else the NG becomes refugees within a couple
of
days.


Seems I remember seeing on quite a few occasions the NG bringing all
that
stuff with them. Do they now stay at Hiltons and have their meals
catered?



wrote in message
ups.com...
I really can't stand the situation that is occuring in the
Convention
Center. There are about two thousand at the Convention Center with
NO
police or rescue personel onsite. Babies have no milk. At least two
dead bodies are there. An SUV with one police officer drove by and
raced away. One girl has been raped.







  #7  
Old September 3rd 05, 05:12 AM
Dave Stadt
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"sfb" wrote in message news:kS7Se.977$IT4.248@trnddc04...
You remember correctly, but it takes time to assemble troops in
armories, load vehicles, and move into the disaster areas clearing roads
and bridges of debris as necessary.


Six days? That's nuts. Even Bush is saying the time to respond was far
beyond reasonable.


"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
...

"sfb" wrote in message newswZRe.8$Sx4.7@trnddc06...
Katrina is an enormous challenge in logistics. New Orleans is at the
southern end of a very large damaged area. It takes time to clear
roads,
inspect bridges, etc. I saw one photo where every single power pole
for
a half mile or so was snapped off and lying across the road. Whether
that was a main road is unknown, but clearing that kind of damage
takes
time.

You can't just run the National Guard in without food, water, fuel
for
vehicles, places to rest else the NG becomes refugees within a couple
of
days.


Seems I remember seeing on quite a few occasions the NG bringing all
that
stuff with them. Do they now stay at Hiltons and have their meals
catered?



wrote in message
ups.com...
I really can't stand the situation that is occuring in the
Convention
Center. There are about two thousand at the Convention Center with
NO
police or rescue personel onsite. Babies have no milk. At least two
dead bodies are there. An SUV with one police officer drove by and
raced away. One girl has been raped.









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Old September 3rd 05, 05:25 AM
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Dave Stadt wrote:
"sfb" wrote in message news:kS7Se.977$IT4.248@trnddc04...
You remember correctly, but it takes time to assemble troops in
armories, load vehicles, and move into the disaster areas clearing roads
and bridges of debris as necessary.


Six days? That's nuts. Even Bush is saying the time to respond was far
beyond reasonable.


It took 9/11 for us to take terrorism seriously. Perhaps now we will
take civil defense seriously. I live in Boston and while we're not
below sea level, a 20' storm surge (let along dirty bomb or attack on
an LNG terminal) would make one hell of a mess. Now I suspect there
will be a lot more people asking the local gov't just what the plan
would be should we be staring down a similar barrel.

-cwk.

  #9  
Old September 3rd 05, 03:33 PM
sfb
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Isn't the point demanding instant results when things take time and is
often the case, too much time.

We tend to forget many of the challenges like they can't work at night
because of the lack of lights. Driving at night is very dangerous
because of the destruction of stop signs and traffic signals.

People can't even agree on a time line. Katrina hit Monday and there is
video of the NG all over the New Orleans on Friday which seems closer to
four days than six.

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
...

"sfb" wrote in message
news:kS7Se.977$IT4.248@trnddc04...
You remember correctly, but it takes time to assemble troops in
armories, load vehicles, and move into the disaster areas clearing
roads
and bridges of debris as necessary.


Six days? That's nuts. Even Bush is saying the time to respond was
far
beyond reasonable.


"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
...

"sfb" wrote in message
newswZRe.8$Sx4.7@trnddc06...
Katrina is an enormous challenge in logistics. New Orleans is at
the
southern end of a very large damaged area. It takes time to clear
roads,
inspect bridges, etc. I saw one photo where every single power
pole
for
a half mile or so was snapped off and lying across the road.
Whether
that was a main road is unknown, but clearing that kind of damage
takes
time.

You can't just run the National Guard in without food, water, fuel
for
vehicles, places to rest else the NG becomes refugees within a
couple
of
days.

Seems I remember seeing on quite a few occasions the NG bringing
all
that
stuff with them. Do they now stay at Hiltons and have their meals
catered?



wrote in message
ups.com...
I really can't stand the situation that is occuring in the
Convention
Center. There are about two thousand at the Convention Center
with
NO
police or rescue personel onsite. Babies have no milk. At least
two
dead bodies are there. An SUV with one police officer drove by
and
raced away. One girl has been raped.











 




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