If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#61
|
|||
|
|||
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:13:25 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote: "Roger Halstead" wrote in message .. . On 07 Dec 2003 16:10:52 GMT, (paul k. sanchez) If I can make a slight correction on your posting. TBM700 C2 model is currently $2.6, we don't use the "m" word. 300 ktas is available only at FL260 ISA @ 100% :-)) torque, and quite honestly with a lot of antennas not present. Generaly we fly the ship at normal cruise FL280, FL290, and FL310. Torque is 85% at FL280, 83% at FL290, and 79% at FL310, all at ISA of course. Speeds that we see are 265 to 285 ktas. Fuel flow 47 to 41 gph. Hummm...with a turbocharged IO-540 I could get that out of my G-III (as in glasair, not gulfstream), but in the G-III it's a tad more difficult to get up and stretch your legs, or take a "potty break". :-)) You'll have to fix the return add due to dumb virus checkers Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?) www.rogerhalstead.com Wish you well. paul k. sanchez, cfii-mei 265 to 285 in a Glasair III? Yup! Course thats MPH and not knots. POH lists 282 at 8,000 using a stock 300 HP K1A5 Lycombing at 75% That's pretty close to the figures I was seeing when I flew N540HP at Oshkosh. OTOH the turbocharged version will cruise at something like 360 plus MPH at 25,000. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?) www.rogerhalstead.com Return address modified due to dumb virus checkers Mike MU-2 |
#62
|
|||
|
|||
"Roger Halstead" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:13:25 GMT, "Mike Rapoport" wrote: "Roger Halstead" wrote in message .. . On 07 Dec 2003 16:10:52 GMT, (paul k. sanchez) If I can make a slight correction on your posting. TBM700 C2 model is currently $2.6, we don't use the "m" word. 300 ktas is available only at FL260 ISA @ 100% :-)) torque, and quite honestly with a lot of antennas not present. Generaly we fly the ship at normal cruise FL280, FL290, and FL310. Torque is 85% at FL280, 83% at FL290, and 79% at FL310, all at ISA of course. Speeds that we see are 265 to 285 ktas. Fuel flow 47 to 41 gph. Hummm...with a turbocharged IO-540 I could get that out of my G-III (as in glasair, not gulfstream), but in the G-III it's a tad more difficult to get up and stretch your legs, or take a "potty break". :-)) You'll have to fix the return add due to dumb virus checkers Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?) www.rogerhalstead.com Wish you well. paul k. sanchez, cfii-mei 265 to 285 in a Glasair III? Yup! Course thats MPH and not knots. POH lists 282 at 8,000 using a stock 300 HP K1A5 Lycombing at 75% That's pretty close to the figures I was seeing when I flew N540HP at Oshkosh. OTOH the turbocharged version will cruise at something like 360 plus MPH at 25,000. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?) www.rogerhalstead.com Return address modified due to dumb virus checkers Mike MU-2 I'm not doubting the numbers but I thought that a Lancair IV was the fastest and could reach a maxmium of 295kts but *cruised* at about 240kts. Mike MU-2 |
#63
|
|||
|
|||
L-IVs cruise faster than 240. In a builder's mind it'll do 300 kts,
but in reality probably 280ish. Still not bad for 16-18 GPH. 'Course the turbines'll go faster. But they're realistically a 2 seat airplane. -Jon C. "Mike Rapoport" wrote in message news:JWlBb.6974 I'm not doubting the numbers but I thought that a Lancair IV was the fastest and could reach a maxmium of 295kts but *cruised* at about 240kts. Mike MU-2 |
#64
|
|||
|
|||
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:32:57 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote: snip 265 to 285 in a Glasair III? Yup! Course thats MPH and not knots. POH lists 282 at 8,000 using a stock 300 HP K1A5, or K1H5 Lycombing at 75% That's pretty close to the figures I was seeing when I flew N540HP at Oshkosh. OTOH the turbocharged version will cruise at something like 360 plus MPH at 25,000. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?) www.rogerhalstead.com Return address modified due to dumb virus checkers Mike MU-2 I'm not doubting the numbers but I thought that a Lancair IV was the fastest and could reach a maxmium of 295kts but *cruised* at about 240kts. The normally aspirated G-III cruises at something close to 260 MPH, or 226 knots at roughly 8000 feet. The turbocharged G-III, with the 2 foot wingtip extensions for the high aspect ratio, is considerably faster at altitude. BUT and it's a really big but... there have only been couple built and I don't believe it's offered as part of the kit. It is also quite different than the standard G-III fire wall forward (including the firewall), at least the one being built just north of me is. One owner (see the builders group www.glasair.org ) says he gets 228 knots at 8,000 and 75% The turbocharged version of the G-III runs the same HP as the IV-P, but is smaller and unpressurized. That sucker will really haul at altitude, if the pilot and passenger can stand it. Even sucking on Oxygen, I don't like to go that high. But, to redress... if you count currently offered models and versions then yes, the IV-P would be the fastest model offered as the turbocharged G-III (as far as I can determine) is now a builder mod rather than a factory option. I'm going to have to ask if anyone on there is flying a turbocharged model and what they get for speeds. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?) www.rogerhalstead.com Return address modified due to dumb virus checkers Mike MU-2 |
#65
|
|||
|
|||
"Roger Halstead" wrote in message ... On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:32:57 GMT, "Mike Rapoport" wrote: snip 265 to 285 in a Glasair III? Yup! Course thats MPH and not knots. POH lists 282 at 8,000 using a stock 300 HP K1A5, or K1H5 Lycombing at 75% That's pretty close to the figures I was seeing when I flew N540HP at Oshkosh. OTOH the turbocharged version will cruise at something like 360 plus MPH at 25,000. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?) www.rogerhalstead.com Return address modified due to dumb virus checkers Mike MU-2 I'm not doubting the numbers but I thought that a Lancair IV was the fastest and could reach a maxmium of 295kts but *cruised* at about 240kts. The normally aspirated G-III cruises at something close to 260 MPH, or 226 knots at roughly 8000 feet. The turbocharged G-III, with the 2 foot wingtip extensions for the high aspect ratio, is considerably faster at altitude. BUT and it's a really big but... there have only been couple built and I don't believe it's offered as part of the kit. It is also quite different than the standard G-III fire wall forward (including the firewall), at least the one being built just north of me is. One owner (see the builders group www.glasair.org ) says he gets 228 knots at 8,000 and 75% The turbocharged version of the G-III runs the same HP as the IV-P, but is smaller and unpressurized. That sucker will really haul at altitude, if the pilot and passenger can stand it. Even sucking on Oxygen, I don't like to go that high. But, to redress... if you count currently offered models and versions then yes, the IV-P would be the fastest model offered as the turbocharged G-III (as far as I can determine) is now a builder mod rather than a factory option. I'm going to have to ask if anyone on there is flying a turbocharged model and what they get for speeds. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?) www.rogerhalstead.com Return address modified due to dumb virus checkers Mike MU-2 Thanks for the education. I have a Murphy Moose fast build kit on order that will only go about 145mph but will get off the ground in 600' with 1400lbs of fuel and people. Mike MU-2 |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
AOPA Stall/Spin Study -- Stowell's Review (8,000 words) | Rich Stowell | Aerobatics | 28 | January 2nd 09 02:26 PM |
Pilot Error? Is it Mr. Damron? | Badwater Bill | Home Built | 3 | June 23rd 04 04:05 PM |
rec.aviation.aerobatics FAQ | Dr. Guenther Eichhorn | Aerobatics | 0 | December 1st 03 06:27 AM |
single pilot ifr trip tonight | Guy Elden Jr. | Instrument Flight Rules | 187 | November 24th 03 10:18 PM |
rec.aviation.aerobatics FAQ | Dr. Guenther Eichhorn | Aerobatics | 0 | November 1st 03 06:27 AM |