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Old October 3rd 05, 09:07 PM
Dave Stadt
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"Montblack" wrote in message
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("Greg Copeland" wrote)
Actually, the safety aspect is not suspect. It's fairly well accepted
that SUVs are safer because there are so many SUVs on the road. If you
remove SUVs from the equation then pretty much all other, smaller,
vehicles sudden become much, much safer. Last I read, the roads would

be
much safer if it were not for SUVs.



Check the accident stats. Many fatalities are single car accidents. Now we
need to figure out if SUV's are more, or less, safe than "smaller" cars in
this category?

Single vehicle deaths is a healthy percentage of the pie.


Montblack


A factor that cannot be determined is how many accidents are avoided by
smaller vehicles due to their greater maneuverability.



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Old October 1st 05, 01:52 PM
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Dave Stadt wrote:
"Sylvain" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:


Those that buy based on perception deserve what they get. I know far


more

people that buy based on mission than perception.


then how do you explain SUVs?

--Sylvain



I don't even try but if I had to guess I would say small penis.


Because that is your problem? I don't own an SUV, but I do own a
full-size pickup. It would be very hard to mount my snowplow and haul
firewood with a car.

Matt
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Old October 1st 05, 02:59 PM
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:
"Sylvain" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:


Those that buy based on perception deserve what they get. I know far


more

people that buy based on mission than perception.

then how do you explain SUVs?

--Sylvain



I don't even try but if I had to guess I would say small penis.


Because that is your problem? I don't own an SUV, but I do own a
full-size pickup. It would be very hard to mount my snowplow and haul
firewood with a car.

Matt


Well no, I have owned a number of full size pick-ups when I had a mission
that required one.


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Old October 1st 05, 10:42 PM
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Dave Stadt wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:

"Sylvain" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:



Those that buy based on perception deserve what they get. I know far

more


people that buy based on mission than perception.

then how do you explain SUVs?

--Sylvain


I don't even try but if I had to guess I would say small penis.


Because that is your problem? I don't own an SUV, but I do own a
full-size pickup. It would be very hard to mount my snowplow and haul
firewood with a car.

Matt



Well no, I have owned a number of full size pick-ups when I had a mission
that required one.


And I know a number of people for whom an SUV is an ideal vehicle. They
routinely haul 7 people and tow trailers and boats. I have two minivans
and a pickup as I also routinely haul 7 people and a camper, but not at
the same time. If I needed to do both simultaneously, then I'd like own
an SUV also.


Matt
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Old October 1st 05, 10:43 PM
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Dave Stadt wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:

"Sylvain" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:



Those that buy based on perception deserve what they get. I know far

more


people that buy based on mission than perception.

then how do you explain SUVs?

--Sylvain


I don't even try but if I had to guess I would say small penis.


Because that is your problem? I don't own an SUV, but I do own a
full-size pickup. It would be very hard to mount my snowplow and haul
firewood with a car.

Matt



Well no, I have owned a number of full size pick-ups when I had a mission
that required one.


Most airplanes are flown much of the time by a single pilot. Do you
think we should all have only single pax airplanes and not have the
typical 4-place light plane?


Matt
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Old October 2nd 05, 12:37 AM
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:

"Sylvain" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:



Those that buy based on perception deserve what they get. I know far

more


people that buy based on mission than perception.

then how do you explain SUVs?

--Sylvain


I don't even try but if I had to guess I would say small penis.

Because that is your problem? I don't own an SUV, but I do own a
full-size pickup. It would be very hard to mount my snowplow and haul
firewood with a car.

Matt



Well no, I have owned a number of full size pick-ups when I had a

mission
that required one.


Most airplanes are flown much of the time by a single pilot. Do you
think we should all have only single pax airplanes and not have the
typical 4-place light plane?


Matt


Quite a few people I know are moving from 4 place to 2 place airplanes.
I'll let you figure out the reason. One can ususlly rent a four place when
the need arises.


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Old October 2nd 05, 04:45 AM
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"Dave Stadt" wrote

Quite a few people I know are moving from 4 place to 2 place airplanes.


The problem I see with that, is that so many 4 place airplanes are really
only 2 place with full fuel and luggage. If the 2 place is really a 2 place
with decent range and load carrying, there are great reasons to change.
--
Jim in NC

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Old October 1st 05, 01:45 PM
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Sylvain wrote:
Dave Stadt wrote:

Those that buy based on perception deserve what they get. I know far
more
people that buy based on mission than perception.



then how do you explain SUVs?


Have you ever owned one?

Matt
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Old October 1st 05, 08:59 PM
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Sylvain wrote:

then how do you explain SUVs?


My brother in law has one. He explains that his accountant told him that it
saved him money somehow based upon some tax break specifically designed to
encourage purchase of that type of vehicle. Since he drives very little
(ie. the fuel cost is less of a factor in his life), it made sense.

Why there'd be such a law, I've zero idea. It seems odd to me.

A friend of mine also owns one, but he uses it for lugging his boat around.
He drives a far more sensible vehicle other times.

[Of course, one could question the sense of a large boat in terms of fuel
costs. But then I'm sure some people could raise the same spectre for
aircraft laugh.]

- Andrew

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Old October 1st 05, 09:35 PM
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In article ne.com,
Andrew Gideon wrote:

My brother in law has [an SUV]. He explains that his accountant told him that it
saved him money somehow based upon some tax break specifically designed to
encourage purchase of that type of vehicle....

Why there'd be such a law, I've zero idea. It seems odd to me.


Have you seen the President and his cabinet? It looks like an oil
company board meeting. I think it's fairly obvious why a tax break for
fuel-thirsty vehicles is on the books, while the tax credit for hybrids
is whittled away.
 




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