New Cessna

gwengler wrote:
The engine hasn't been decided,
but apparently Cessna is considering a Diesel engine as an option. A

That's the part that doesn't sound right to me, unless Cessna really
has got religion about doing something completely new. They are
probably the only company in the world that could make this work. But
it's one hell of a gamble for them, too. Like I said, that doesn't
sound like the Cessna we know.

turbo charged engine will be an option for sure. Plastic or metal
hasn't been decided either; however, Cessna's long term aluminum
supply contract will end in 2007.

Considering that Cessna will still be producing aluminum Citations
after 2007 I think that's pretty much a red herring, no?

-cwk.

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gwengler wrote:
The engine hasn't been decided,
but apparently Cessna is considering a Diesel engine as an option. A

That's the part that doesn't sound right to me, unless Cessna really
has got religion about doing something completely new. They are
probably the only company in the world that could make this work. But
it's one hell of a gamble for them, too. Like I said, that doesn't
sound like the Cessna we know.


Not to mention that Lycoming and Cessna are owned by the same parent
company, why buy (the engine) from a competitor?

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gwengler wrote:
The engine hasn't been decided,
but apparently Cessna is considering a Diesel engine as an option. A

That's the part that doesn't sound right to me, unless Cessna really
has got religion about doing something completely new. They are
probably the only company in the world that could make this work. But
it's one hell of a gamble for them, too. Like I said, that doesn't
sound like the Cessna we know.


Not to mention that Lycoming and Cessna are owned by the same parent
company, why buy (the engine) from a competitor?

Because you might not be buying the best engine, and in the long run that
would be a very expensive mistake.



-ash
Cthulhu in 2005!
Why wait for nature?

Darkwing (Badass) wrote:


Not to mention that Lycoming and Cessna are owned by the same parent
company, why buy (the engine) from a competitor?

Besides, Lycoming *could* be developing a diesel engine.

cjcampbell wrote:

Besides, Lycoming *could* be developing a diesel engine.

They were working on one a few years ago, but I haven't heard anything about it
recently. IIRC, they proposed using water-cooled heads on air-cooled cylinders.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

As of last spring, Lycoming was talking (again) about introducing a diesel,
and soon. See
http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/cont.../lycoming.html

Seems to me that five years ago they were talking about a TDIO-360 of about
200hp. With six cylinders, that would be a 300hp TDIO-540.

Seth

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gwengler wrote:
The engine hasn't been decided,
but apparently Cessna is considering a Diesel engine as an option. A

That's the part that doesn't sound right to me, unless Cessna really
has got religion about doing something completely new. They are
probably the only company in the world that could make this work. But
it's one hell of a gamble for them, too. Like I said, that doesn't
sound like the Cessna we know.


Not to mention that Lycoming and Cessna are owned by the same parent
company, why buy (the engine) from a competitor?

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DW

Gwengler,

I talked to someone who has seen a drawing of the new Cessna line of
models.


Someone with a background in airplane design needs to clue me in he Is it really
likely that there are serious drawings (as in construction drawings, not "studies")
without the basic building material having been decided on? I would think that's
highly unlikely.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#190722

I obviously talked to a dealer who was at the conference referred to in
the above link. Cessna showed drawings of a new design. Drawings like
drawings in a study. Even if you draw something on a paper napkin,
that could probably be considered as a drawing as well.

Gerd

Gwengler,

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Thanks! Good marketing, well executed. There may be more - there may
not.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

gwengler wrote:
The engine hasn't been decided, but apparently Cessna is
considering a Diesel engine as an option. A turbo charged
engine will be an option for sure.

The other possibility is one of the new engines from AES (formerly
Bombardier), that allow the use of both 100LL and unleaded fuel.
Although I prefer low-winged aircraft, I'm excited about any advances
that happen. Hopefully this will spur some further development by
other traditional manufacturers.

Mike