Sport Pilot Training in VA

Let's not count out the school up around Boston somewhere that is training
in Ercoupes..they have several.
Also a place in middle Georgia training in Flightstars/and a Champ available
for tailwheel endorsements. There are places out there, some on the net some
not. Just have to shop around. I hope to make it over by St Louis and fly
their Luscombe one of these days.

Patrick
student SP
aircraft structural mech

"ET" wrote in message
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wrote in
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I bet I am one of thousands of low time pilots (PPL for 2 years and
170 hours) that looks at sport pilot planes as chance to fly new,
interesting, and most of all cheap aircraft.

I really like the 601 and would love to put 10 to 20 hours on one but
the price should be more like $60/hr for the plane. If the new sport
pilot planes cost more than a PA28-140 or C-172, I think sport pilot
will just become flying for thoose who can't get a medical. Then
FBO's will never get enough hours on there planes to be profitable.

Sport Pilot planes need to be no frills, cheap, and fun to succeed.


Give me a Piper Cub and a tent!




Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
The plane costs around $80K he's nuts and when I meet him and I'm
sure I will I'll tell him so.

He's flying the plane all over the place to fly-ins and the like. He
probably is trying to pay for all of his flying and it isn't going to
work.

Mark my words the price will drop or the repo man will come.


"W P Dixon" wrote in message
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Yep!
I told him as much..way over priced! 130 an hour in block time no
less
!!!! Ridiculas! I'd love to fly one myself but I won't at that
price. Of course I heard the usual well compare it to the cost and
maintenance of a new Diamond . And compare it to a 40 year old
plane. Well if the maintenance on a new sport plane is more than
the maintenance and upkeep of a 40-60 year old "sport category"
plane..I don't want one!
And heck you can rent a Diamond for 130 an hour can't you? They
cost in
the range of 140-150 G? The 601 supposedly as S-LSA around 45G ????
I don't think enough rich doctor and lawyer types will be
interested in flying a 601 to keep them afloat. Especially ones
that need to get a sport pilot cert. May want to hold out for that
repo

Patrick
student SP
aircraft structural mech

"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
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Jeez, that is high. I'll bet the price drops when no one takes
them up on that. There is no way in hell it costs $130/hour to fly
a 601XL unless there business model has them paying the thing off
in 1000 hours.

I was planning on going there or to one of the other
sportsplanes.com centers for some dual and time in model before I
do my first flight. Hopefully by then the price will have dropped.
Either that or find out who is financing the plane there will
probably be a repo in a few months.





he's doing it because he can.... Right now there are only 2 places in
the country that are openly offering concentrated SP instruction, this
one, and St. Charles Flying service in Mo. Funny thing is though, the
SportStar that St Charles is using is only $73-$79/hr and costs a cool
$100k in its configuration. They are losing so much money on that
plane, they've ordered another one HEH!.


So, they WILL get some east coasters to come out for a week and do some
SP training in VA, but if "I" was doing it, I'd be flying to MO..

There is also a flight school in/near Phoenix with an Allegro (also
rents in the $70's).... I don't know if they will do an accelerated
program though.

It's all about what the market will bere. Go to Orange County
California, they've got a Piper Cub you can rent for $100/hr... then an
extra $40/hr for the instuctor. You can actually go to the
sunriseaviation website and see that it's booked an average of 1.5
hrs/day....

--
-- ET :-)

"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

Wow, I sounds like you guys have put a lot more thought it to this than
I did.
Currently I am a memeber of a club. I totally understand that a club,
set to break even and with many volunter hours is much cheaper than a
business that actually has to pay people let a lone make a profit.

(my club was $1500 to buy in C172 aprox $65 hour with current fuel
prices)

I started thinking and I guess sport pilot planes aren't going to be
any cheaper than a C152. The difference in fuel burn just dosen't
make up for the fact that a new airplane means more debt / interest
and insurance costs. I have yet to be proven that a rotex or jabiru is
much cheaper to operate than a Lyc.

I am still will to rent one from time to time if anyone ever decides to
rent out one in the Seattle area. (feel free to email me if you know
where a rental is)

I still hope the sport pilots rule encourages for pilots. Of course
how can anyone get a license in only 20 hours but that's another story.

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:26:07 -0400, "W P Dixon"
wrote:

There are places out there,

There's a list of Cub-friendly airports (and Cub instruction) at
www.pipercubforum.com/friendly.htm

I'd be glad of any additions.


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