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Old November 3rd 05, 03:39 AM
skym
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FWIW, I agree with all of Mitty's three books as very good; I have all
three. However, I have found that Machado's two books -on basic pilot
training (I forget the title) and "The Instrument Pilot's Survival
Handbook"- to be right up there with them.

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Old November 3rd 05, 11:59 AM
Greg Farris
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Have not yet read Buck's Weather Flying, but I've heard so many glowing
recommendations - this one being just the most recent - that I now know
what to ask for for Christmas.

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Old November 3rd 05, 03:27 PM
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His "North Star Over My Shoulder" was being remaindered a while back. I think I
paid three or four dollars for mine, brand new. It is his autobiography and is
really great reading. Buy yourself a Thanksgiving present!

His "Flying Know-How" is also worth tracking down. I think it may be out of
print, though.

On 11/3/2005 5:59 AM, Greg Farris wrote the following:
Have not yet read Buck's Weather Flying, but I've heard so many glowing
recommendations - this one being just the most recent - that I now know
what to ask for for Christmas.

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Old November 3rd 05, 03:15 PM
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On 11/2/2005 9:39 PM, skym wrote the following:
FWIW, I agree with all of Mitty's three books as very good; I have all
three. However, I have found that Machado's two books -on basic pilot
training (I forget the title) and "The Instrument Pilot's Survival
Handbook"- to be right up there with them.


There is class of good books that require some tolerance on the part of the
reader. Machado's, for example. I find his "humor" to be very tedious. He
just wears me out, in print and in person. YMMV. I have sold off the Machado
books that I had although I will agree that the content is good.

Another good book in this "tolerance" class is "Everything Explained for the
Professional Pilot." It's a good thing that we are no longer using hand set
type, as the author of this book would have run the type case out of bold and
out of exclamation points by the middle of his second chapter. It is a
graphical train wreck but really does live up to its title. Everything is
there. This one, I will continue to own.
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Old November 3rd 05, 10:31 PM
Bob Gardner
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I don't know if Captain Buck has updated his book recently, but my copy says
nothing about super-cooled large droplets. The Roselawn, Illinois accident
was attributed to ice accretion of droplets far larger than those
contemplated by the Part 25 certification standards, and led to 25 or so
Airworthiness Directives revising the Flight Manuals of a bunch of
turboprops. IOW, Buck is good, but he is not the last word on icing.

Sporty's sells "In-Flight Icing," a book by a couple of icing experts
copyrighted in 1999. Every serious instrument pilot should read it.

Bob Gardner

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I'm recently received my IFR ticket and flew in actual a couple weeks
ago for only the 2nd time. I picked up some rime ice at 9000' in a calm
stratus layer. Scared the &#&((*@# out of me! I promptly turned back
for home.

I just didn't feel like I got any real training for this in the IFR
work. Yes, I know the ground school stuff and I scored high on the
written, but that's wholly different.

I received Weather Flying by Buck from Amazon yesterday. And although
I'm only through chapter 2, it seems to be an outstanding book. I
highly recommend it.



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Old November 3rd 05, 10:44 PM
Jim Burns
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I highly recommend http://aircrafticing.grc.nasa.gov/courses.html# NASA's
online aircraft icing course as a supplement to every pilots weather
library.
Jim

"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
...
I don't know if Captain Buck has updated his book recently, but my copy

says
nothing about super-cooled large droplets. The Roselawn, Illinois accident
was attributed to ice accretion of droplets far larger than those
contemplated by the Part 25 certification standards, and led to 25 or so
Airworthiness Directives revising the Flight Manuals of a bunch of
turboprops. IOW, Buck is good, but he is not the last word on icing.

Sporty's sells "In-Flight Icing," a book by a couple of icing experts
copyrighted in 1999. Every serious instrument pilot should read it.

Bob Gardner

wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm recently received my IFR ticket and flew in actual a couple weeks
ago for only the 2nd time. I picked up some rime ice at 9000' in a calm
stratus layer. Scared the &#&((*@# out of me! I promptly turned back
for home.

I just didn't feel like I got any real training for this in the IFR
work. Yes, I know the ground school stuff and I scored high on the
written, but that's wholly different.

I received Weather Flying by Buck from Amazon yesterday. And although
I'm only through chapter 2, it seems to be an outstanding book. I
highly recommend it.





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Old November 5th 05, 05:13 AM
Andrew Sarangan
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If you are below freezing in the clouds, don't be surprised if you get
ice. Instead, be pleasantly surprised if you don't get ice. In any
case, flying in icing conditions on your second actual IFR may not be
the best plan.

Did you check the temperature at 9000' before the flight? Were you
watching the temperature gauge? If conditons are right, you should be
expecting ice rather than be surprised by it.

You may also want to get the NASA Icing videos. It is an excellent
source of information, with real inflight footage, and it is
practically free. Sportys sells those videos.

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Old November 6th 05, 03:02 PM
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Andrew Sarangan wrote:

If you are below freezing in the clouds, don't be surprised if you get
ice. Instead, be pleasantly surprised if you don't get ice.


.... unless it's a long way below zero, in which case the clouds
probably consist of ice crystals rather than supercooled water
droplets. I don't worry too much about flying in or through a cloud
layer when the OAT is -20 degC or lower -- the only time you'll get
iced up there there is if there's a lot of lifting action to carry
water droplets up from down low (i.e. the windward side of a mountain
ridge in a strong wind, or a towering cumulus cloud).


All the best,


David

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Old November 7th 05, 02:02 AM
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wrote in message
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Andrew Sarangan wrote:

If you are below freezing in the clouds, don't be surprised if you get
ice. Instead, be pleasantly surprised if you don't get ice.


... unless it's a long way below zero, in which case the clouds
probably consist of ice crystals rather than supercooled water
droplets. I don't worry too much about flying in or through a cloud
layer when the OAT is -20 degC or lower -- the only time you'll get
iced up there there is if there's a lot of lifting action to carry
water droplets up from down low (i.e. the windward side of a mountain
ridge in a strong wind, or a towering cumulus cloud).


Actually you will sometimes find as much ice on the lee side of the mountain
ridge on the rising side of a mountain wave.

Mike
MU-2


 




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