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Old December 15th 05, 05:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote:

When you contrast those days with the Russian Aeroflot model we've come to
emulate (just think -- we used to make fun of them!) since then, it is to
weep.


Maybe if you didn't have to pay for the tickets back then. Airfare from
Knoxville to New York then and now costs over $700. But $700 was half the cost
of a new car in the early 60s.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.
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Old December 15th 05, 10:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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When you contrast those days with the Russian Aeroflot model we've come
to emulate (just think -- we used to make fun of them!) since then, it is
to weep.


Maybe if you didn't have to pay for the tickets back then. Airfare from
Knoxville to New York then and now costs over $700. But $700 was half the
cost of a new car in the early 60s.


Oh, I intellectually *know* all that. Flying was exclusive, literally,
back then, and is much more accessible to the common man today. In that
regard, it's all good.

But, hell, go back to the 1930s. To fly on the Pan Am Clippers from the
U.S. to Japan cost the equivalent of $10,000 US dollars -- at the height of
the Great Depression! Now *that* was exclusive!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old December 16th 05, 02:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Oh, I intellectually *know* all that. Flying was exclusive, literally,
back then, and is much more accessible to the common man today. In that
regard, it's all good.


Well, for half the cost of a new car, you'd be able to do better than that
today. Just not on a major carrier.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.
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Old December 16th 05, 03:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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In rec.aviation.owning George Patterson wrote:
: Jay Honeck wrote:

: When you contrast those days with the Russian Aeroflot model we've come to
: emulate (just think -- we used to make fun of them!) since then, it is to
: weep.

: Maybe if you didn't have to pay for the tickets back then. Airfare from
: Knoxville to New York then and now costs over $700.

Yes! Back in 1977 (after my parent's divorce) my little brother & I flew
on all the great airlines from Boston to Tampa. You know, Eastern, People
Express, Piedmont... The tix were about $1200 round trip, each, for one
8-year old and one 4-year old. No non-stops. I think it took 8 hours
door-to-door for many flights (but forgive me if my memory is not perfect;
after all, I was 8 years old).
--
Aaron C
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Old December 17th 05, 01:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Yes! Back in 1977 (after my parent's divorce) my little brother & I flew
on all the great airlines from Boston to Tampa. You know, Eastern, People
Express, Piedmont... The tix were about $1200 round trip, each, for one
8-year old and one 4-year old. No non-stops. I think it took 8 hours
door-to-door for many flights (but forgive me if my memory is not perfect;
after all, I was 8 years old).


I'm not sure I'd lump "People's Express" and "Piedmont" under the banner of
"Great Airlines."

Truly great airlines were Pan Am, TWA, United, and American. By '77 they
had already sown their seeds of decline, although no one knew it at the
time.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old December 17th 05, 01:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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In article %aUof.652255$xm3.217070@attbi_s21,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Yes! Back in 1977 (after my parent's divorce) my little brother & I flew
on all the great airlines from Boston to Tampa. You know, Eastern, People
Express, Piedmont... The tix were about $1200 round trip, each, for one
8-year old and one 4-year old. No non-stops. I think it took 8 hours
door-to-door for many flights (but forgive me if my memory is not perfect;
after all, I was 8 years old).


I'm not sure I'd lump "People's Express" and "Piedmont" under the banner of
"Great Airlines."


People's Express and Piedmont might have treated an 8-year old and a 4-year old
pretty well (especially if travelling without an adult).

--
Bob Noel
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Old December 18th 05, 05:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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In rec.aviation.owning Bob Noel wrote:

: People's Express and Piedmont might have treated an 8-year old and a 4-year old
: pretty well (especially if travelling without an adult).

We were traveling without an adult. We got little plastic "wings" with the
airline's logo, to let the crew know we were alone. One of the crew brought
us to the next airplane on each airplane change.

I forgot Delta, which was my favorite airline for many years. Their 1970's
logo on the vertical stabilizer of their 727-200's was a thing of beauty.
--
Aaron C.
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Old December 17th 05, 09:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote

I'm not sure I'd lump "People's Express" and "Piedmont" under the banner

of
"Great Airlines."


Piedmont, while not far reaching, and not large, had some of the best
service, most reliable and comfortable in this area of the US. Many cried
when it was snapped up by useless air.
--
Jim in NC

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Old December 18th 05, 12:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Jay Honeck" wrote

I'm not sure I'd lump "People's Express" and "Piedmont" under the banner

of
"Great Airlines."


Piedmont, while not far reaching, and not large, had some of the best
service, most reliable and comfortable in this area of the US. Many cried
when it was snapped up by useless air.
--
Jim in NC


Piedmont will make something of a comeback in the next year or sot...

The new US Airways (or old America West if you prefer...) is going to paint
up four aircraft in their original livery of:

-America West
-US Airways
-PSA
-Piedmont

Now if we could just get Piedmont back on a race car...

Jay B


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Old December 18th 05, 02:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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The new US Airways (or old America West if you prefer...) is going to
paint up four aircraft in their original livery of:

-America West
-US Airways
-PSA
-Piedmont


Why? Some sort of commemoration or anniversary?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


 




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