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Peter Duniho wrote:
Angry, I think because it is so senseless and needless. It's upseting to see people killing their families in stupid ways. What's the point in being angry? There is no point in being angry. I'm not angry about this delibrately. It makes me angry to hear about two kids who will never grow up to see their teens, never go on a first date, never get married, etc, all because (*probably*) of some stupid decision. As pilots, we bitch and moan that people see 'little planes' as dangerous. Quite frankly, many pilots are doing a great job at helping to propagate that belief and statistics. Those kids were strapped in by an adult taking their lives in his hands. As a father of two beautiful young girls... yes, it makes me angry. [zip] Anger as an emotional response to an accident like this is draining, stressful, and misdirected. **** happens. Save the anger for things that matter (like politicians who break the law, lie about it until they are exposed, and then claim that they don't have to obey the law). Using the same logic, I shouldn't feel any emotion when I transport a 2 year-old girl who has organ problems to hospital. Using the same logic, I shouldn't feel any emotion when this girl runs up and gives me a big bear hug and kisses me on the cheek. Using the same logic, I would be emotionally dead and with all due respect Pete, I prefer having my eyes swell up with tears of joy helping on an Angel Flight. Hilton |
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"Hilton" wrote in message
news ![]() There is no point in being angry. I'm not angry about this delibrately. It makes me angry to hear about two kids who will never grow up to see their teens, never go on a first date, never get married, etc So it's the hearing about it that makes you angry? I still don't get it. News like this is all around us. Kids die every day, usually as a result of far more heinous circumstances. A person getting angry at the deaths, or of the news of the deaths (whichever) would have to be angry every single day of their life. [...] Using the same logic, I shouldn't feel any emotion when I transport a 2 year-old girl who has organ problems to hospital. Using the same logic, I shouldn't feel any emotion when this girl runs up and gives me a big bear hug and kisses me on the cheek. Using the same logic? Uh...right. You should double-check your reference on "logic". I'm not talking about personal experiences. I'm not saying one should leave emotion behind. I'm saying that it makes no sense to get all emotionally entangled with events that have absolutely nothing to do with you, that are simply a part of every day life, that occur on a regular basis. To sign up for doing that, you leave no room for your own personal experiences, nor your own personal happiness. Using the same logic, I would be emotionally dead and with all due respect Pete, I prefer having my eyes swell up with tears of joy helping on an Angel Flight. Your "conclusion" doesn't use any logic, never mind "the same logic". The two situations are entirely irrelevant of each other. Anyway, I guess you've answered my question. I still don't comprehend being angry about something like this (unless you're actually related to the parties involved or something like that), but obviously each individual is welcome to feel whatever they like. Sorry if my questioning seems like pointless interference. I just didn't understand why the subject was "Angry". Pete |
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Peter Duniho wrote:
What's the point in being angry? Stupid or careless people kill their families every day. How is this any different, for example, from this highway accident: I see your point, but to me every preventable (no, not the sit on your couch or fly comparison here - I mean poor decision making) GA airplane accident that kills especially children is yet another black mark against "those small planes." You discuss a logical response but the non-flying masses, those who read the newspapers and watch their favorite talking heads, will most certainly respond with emotion. -- Peter |
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![]() "Peter R." wrote I see your point, but to me every preventable (no, not the sit on your couch or fly comparison here - I mean poor decision making) GA airplane accident that kills especially children is yet another black mark against "those small planes." So what if it was a mechanical problem, with an airplane that was well maintained, well equipped, with a pilot that was well qualified to fly in weather like the crash weather? What is the response then? Who is there to get angry at, or to react towards? -- Jim in NC |
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![]() "Morgans" wrote in message ... "Peter R." wrote I see your point, but to me every preventable (no, not the sit on your couch or fly comparison here - I mean poor decision making) GA airplane accident that kills especially children is yet another black mark against "those small planes." So what if it was a mechanical problem, with an airplane that was well maintained, well equipped, with a pilot that was well qualified to fly in weather like the crash weather? What is the response then? Who is there to get angry at, or to react towards? The news was quoting relatives as saying he recently got his license, and it was raining when he departed. The details will start to be clearer and more accurate over the next few days. |
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![]() "Tom Conner" wrote The news was quoting relatives as saying he recently got his license, and it was raining when he departed. The details will start to be clearer and more accurate over the next few days. The "news", huh? I'm inspired! g I had not seen any reports of that kind. If true, that would shed a "judgment" aspect to it, wouldn't it? What is the saying? Single engine, crappy weather, and night; choose 2 of 3, but never all three. -- Jim in NC |
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We are 100 miles due north of Gilroy, but in general, the weather patterns
are the same. That day was pretty much 200-500 overcast in light mist all day long, and that night the accident happened we got 5 inches of rain overnight. Jim The news was quoting relatives as saying he recently got his license, and it was raining when he departed. The details will start to be clearer and more accurate over the next few days. |
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Morgans wrote:
Q. So what if it was a mechanical problem, with an airplane that was well maintained, well equipped, with a pilot that was well qualified to fly in weather like the crash weather? Who is there to get angry at...? A. The person who risked everything in his world for an insignificant payoff, in a game widely understood to be especially designed to snare the arrogant fool. If he had lost the house and the car in Vegas, we'd be all for shuffling him off to a 12-steps program for gamblers. But since attempted the same thing that some of us do, we just convince ourselves that it was an act of God, or use some other mechanism for diverting attention from ourselves and our own foolishness. The question to ask is not, "what are the odds of something going wrong?, but, "what are the odds of things turning out well when it does go wrong?" And it will go wrong. That kind of thinking is the difference between the "civilians" and those who intend to do the thing, and keep doing it, for 30 or 40 or 50 years. It's always a matter of "when?", not, "if?" Things are equally likely to go to hell on your 10th flight as on your 10,000th. Just about every year, some fool puts his Piper or Cessna into Lake Michigan, or even little Lake Erie, because they can't be bothered to take a longer route or, at the very least, to climb high enough to ensure a safe emergency landing "feet dry". Some of them even do it at night in the winter. It's easy to say they deserve what they get, but their passengers, and the families left behind, do not. Jack |
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![]() Peter Duniho wrote: Save the anger for things that matter (like politicians who break the law, lie about it until they are exposed, and then claim that they don't have to obey the law). Give it a rest. Clinton has been out of office for years, now. |
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![]() "cjcampbell" wrote in message oups.com... Peter Duniho wrote: Save the anger for things that matter (like politicians who break the law, lie about it until they are exposed, and then claim that they don't have to obey the law). Give it a rest. Clinton has been out of office for years, now. Yea but the other Clinton is still on the prowl. God help us. |
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