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Or even had the wrong airport chart. Something was
certainly wrong, we know what happened from the NTSB report,
but why has not been answered.


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| On 3/11/06 7:13 PM, in article
SPJQf.116929$QW2.4426@dukeread08, "Jim
| Macklin" wrote:
|
| The entire approach was flown improperly. And the
missed
| approached was out of the protected area and as you
said,
| does require an immediate climbing turn.
|
|
| I wonder if they had current, or correct charts, or even
looked at it from
| the way the approach was flown.
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In article SPJQf.116929$QW2.4426@dukeread08,
says...


The entire approach was flown improperly. And the missed
approached was out of the protected area and as you said,
does require an immediate climbing turn.


Everything in the report suggests they did not realize they were past the
airport, or the MAP. Perhaps they knew they had to turn right, but they
probably had no idea they were out of the protected area, and thus didn't
see the urgency of it.

We all know about "expect to land" syndrome, and the unpreparedness for
the missed that results from it. All the more in that the preceding crew
landed easily. It seems they were, as others here suggest, thrown a curve
by the unexpected early clearance, then misread the GPS, which had
already cycled to the last programmed point.

What do you bet if they didn't have the GPS, they would have used the
DME, and it would have been second nature to them to check what it was
tuned to. They may not have lost situational awareness and bumbled along
as they did, seemingly waiting for something to happen in their favor. We
can guess they may have been discussing the situation, trying to figure
out where they were - but then we don't really know. . .

GF

The failure to make a climbing right turn missed approach
was just the last link in a long chain of errors.

I would describe the crew as "head up and locked" because
anytime you have any question about your position on an
approach, a climb is in order and if the crew had
cross-checked any of the readouts that were in front of
them, they would have [should have] known they were about to
kill their passengers.

The King Air had RMI, HSI, DME, a GPS all with dual displays
and a two person crew... why they failed to perform is
subject to interpretation. They were in a hurry? They were
careless? They had equipment problems that were not
reported? Food poisoning?


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
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"Greg Farris" wrote in message
...
| In article SPJQf.116929$QW2.4426@dukeread08,
| says...
|
|
| The entire approach was flown improperly. And the missed
| approached was out of the protected area and as you said,
| does require an immediate climbing turn.
|
|
| Everything in the report suggests they did not realize
they were past the
| airport, or the MAP. Perhaps they knew they had to turn
right, but they
| probably had no idea they were out of the protected area,
and thus didn't
| see the urgency of it.
|
| We all know about "expect to land" syndrome, and the
unpreparedness for
| the missed that results from it. All the more in that the
preceding crew
| landed easily. It seems they were, as others here suggest,
thrown a curve
| by the unexpected early clearance, then misread the GPS,
which had
| already cycled to the last programmed point.
|
| What do you bet if they didn't have the GPS, they would
have used the
| DME, and it would have been second nature to them to check
what it was
| tuned to. They may not have lost situational awareness and
bumbled along
| as they did, seemingly waiting for something to happen in
their favor. We
| can guess they may have been discussing the situation,
trying to figure
| out where they were - but then we don't really know. . .
|
| GF
|