Pilot claims no blame in July crash

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Further, the NTSB/FAA will consider the highest
rated pilot on the airplane to be PIC unless there is clear
evidence to the contrary.

So on each flight, if one finds himself to hold the highest rating
among the occupants of a flight, he should scrutinize all aspects as
though he were PIC, as well as taking a position at which there are
flight controls, and even taking over those controls if he deems it
prudent?

Also, the highest-rated pilot should be able to log the time as PIC while
sleeping in the back seat.

Marco



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One doesn't have to be instrument rated to file an IFR flight plan, do
they? What about a pilot that is working toward their instrument rating?
Their CFII doesn't file the flight plan *for* them, filing is all part
of the training, no?

I suspect a lot of pilots have filed and flown IFR flight plans with little
more than some IR training. This may be another such case.

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Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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One doesn't have to be instrument rated to file an IFR flight plan, do
they? What about a pilot that is working toward their instrument rating?
Their CFII doesn't file the flight plan *for* them, filing is all part
of the training, no?

I suspect a lot of pilots have filed and flown IFR flight plans with
little more than some IR training. This may be another such case.

Evidence? Reasoning?

m

"Happy Dog" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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One doesn't have to be instrument rated to file an IFR flight plan, do
they? What about a pilot that is working toward their instrument rating?
Their CFII doesn't file the flight plan *for* them, filing is all part
of the training, no?

I suspect a lot of pilots have filed and flown IFR flight plans with
little more than some IR training. This may be another such case.

Evidence? Reasoning?

What part of the word "suspect" don't you comprehend?

Aside from that, my evidence is NTSB reports I've read and that about one
driver in ten on the roads do not have valid drivers licenses; which is more
likely to get caught, driver or pilot?


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Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

"Matt Barrow"
I suspect a lot of pilots have filed and flown IFR flight plans with
little more than some IR training. This may be another such case.

Evidence? Reasoning?

What part of the word "suspect" don't you comprehend?

Your question begging definition skills precede you. What do you mean by "a
lot"? Or "some IR training"?

Aside from that, my evidence is NTSB reports I've read and that about one
driver in ten on the roads do not have valid drivers licenses; which is
more likely to get caught, driver or pilot.

Driver. But flying approaches in IMC with "little more than some IR
training" would likely result in lots of accidents. And I don't see any
evidence of this. (Departure or enroute IMC with an assured VMC destination
would be less problematic. Pray that a diversion isn't needed.)

moo

On 2006-03-13, unicate wrote:

One doesn't have to be instrument rated to file an IFR flight plan, do
they? What about a pilot that is working toward their instrument rating?
Their CFII doesn't file the flight plan *for* them, filing is all part
of the training, no?

No they don't. While training and doing IFR flights under IFR flight
plans as a student, I always filed with my own name (even though the
CFII was the PIC). I had to file an IFR flight plan for my checkride,
too. The DE didn't even comment when I filed it under my own name.

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European and UK rules may be different, in the USA, the name
on an IFR flight plan as PIC must be a current IFR rated
pilot.



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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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| On 2006-03-13, unicate
wrote:
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| One doesn't have to be instrument rated to file an IFR
flight plan, do
| they? What about a pilot that is working toward their
instrument rating?
| Their CFII doesn't file the flight plan *for* them,
filing is all part
| of the training, no?
|
| No they don't. While training and doing IFR flights under
IFR flight
| plans as a student, I always filed with my own name (even
though the
| CFII was the PIC). I had to file an IFR flight plan for my
checkride,
| too. The DE didn't even comment when I filed it under my
own name.
|
| --
| Dylan Smith, Port St Mary, Isle of Man
| Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
| Oolite-Linux: an Elite tribute:
http://oolite-linux.berlios.de
| Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:0SARf.117287$QW2.428@dukeread08...
European and UK rules may be different, in the USA, the name
on an IFR flight plan as PIC must be a current IFR rated
pilot.


"Must be" and "is" are not necessarily the same; there is no cross-check at
the time the flight plan is filed.

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:14:59 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:


"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:0SARf.117287$QW2.428@dukeread08...
European and UK rules may be different, in the USA, the name
on an IFR flight plan as PIC must be a current IFR rated
pilot.


"Must be" and "is" are not necessarily the same; there is no cross-check at
the time the flight plan is filed.

Even if there were a cross-check that a pilot holds an instrument
rating, there's no practical way to cross-check whether the pilot is
instrument current.

RK Henry

No check is made unless there is an incident or accident.
But to be legal...


"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:0SARf.117287$QW2.428@dukeread08...
| European and UK rules may be different, in the USA, the
name
| on an IFR flight plan as PIC must be a current IFR rated
| pilot.
|
|
| "Must be" and "is" are not necessarily the same; there is
no cross-check at
| the time the flight plan is filed.
|
|
|