Shafted by the Transport Canada?

Don't pay-em. The *******s got off easy not standing next to us in
Iraq.
God Bless the Brit's and Australians. ( and all the allied countries)

writes:


(4) Notwithstanding anything in this Division, no pilot-in-command
shall, unless a flight plan has been filed, operate an aircraft between
Canada and a foreign state.


Point out you didn't...you operated an aircraft between a foreign state and
Canada.

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"Doug" wrote in message
oups.com...
I don't know if this will help you, but if you file an itinerary with a
responsible person, then you don't have to file a flight plan. An
itinerary is just a record of your trip. A lot of pilots file with
their wife, but it could be anybody.

No a flight plan must be filed when crossing an international border.

"Chris" wrote in message
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No a flight plan must be filed when crossing an international border.

Not always... Was flying back to Houston from SoCal a few years ago and
landing in El Paso for the night and and to refuel... I was routed well
across the border by ATC and asked them about it... They said that they
controlled the Mexican airspace, so it wouldn't be a problem... I have to
think that if I had needed to make an emergency landing while south of the
border, it defintely would have been a problem since Mexico tends to take a
dim view of us bringing firearms into their country... And, of course, since
I'm a Texan, I *always* have a gun or two in my plane...

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
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"Chris" wrote in message
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No a flight plan must be filed when crossing an international border.

Not always... Was flying back to Houston from SoCal a few years ago and
landing in El Paso for the night and and to refuel... I was routed well
across the border by ATC and asked them about it... They said that they
controlled the Mexican airspace, so it wouldn't be a problem... I have to
think that if I had needed to make an emergency landing while south of the
border, it defintely would have been a problem since Mexico tends to take
a
dim view of us bringing firearms into their country... And, of course,
since
I'm a Texan, I *always* have a gun or two in my plane...


I've flown from the Phoenix area to KELP a few times, each time with vectors
into "Mexican" airspace... however that airspace was still under control of
American FAA controlers. Now if i had proceeded INTO mexico then i would
get handed off to a Mex controler, and would probably need the DVFR flight
plan and all that good stuff. The big kicker is not in CROSSING a border
but LANDING across a border. Course everytime i went down I filed IFR, tho
the wx was severe clear (aside from the big brown cloud over Juarez, MX, i
thought PHX was bad!).

And, of course, since
I'm a Texan, I *always* have a gun or two in my plane...
************************************************** **

Then you are good to fly with me anytime... I hate hauling mooches who
expect me to supply the plane, the gas, and the shootin irons...

Reminds me of the time Frank, a third cousin from Arizona, came to
Michigan to visit family he had never seen... Frank had this good ol
pickemup truck, so me and another cousin jumped in and went to the
county fair all teenagers at the time... Whilst at the fair we
managed to get an older friend to buy a couple of pitchers of beer at
the FFA concession... Couldn't buy em myself because an aunt was at the
cash register and she was pretty strait laced - for you city folks,
that's how small towns used to be... Anyway, we were feeling pretty
cheerful on the way home and Frank allowed as how we ought do some
shooting, so we stopped the edge of my dad's woods.. Frank then rooted
around under the seat and came up with a six shooter... I was feeling
cheerful from the beer but I still knew the law... I mentioned to Frank
that in Michigan waving a handgun without a concealed carry permit was
a definite no-no... He was incredulous...
"Whut kinda state is this?", he said?
So, after doing some shooting we went on up to the house... He was
leaving back to Arizona the next morning so I suggested I had an old
steel tool box and a padlock that I would give him to lock his shooting
iron in for the trip back in case he got stopped by the highway
patrol..
"Well OK.", he says, "If it will hold my other guns."
That stopped even cousin Dave who wasn't holding his beer to well...
"Cripes, how many guns you got in here?", says I...
"Geez, I dunno, let me look."
After rooting around under the seats, behind the seat back, in the
glove compartment, and under the dash he came up with five more,
"shootin irons"! Including one he had forgotten about, "I wundered
whur thet one went to."

It was a different world back then... Opening day of bird hunting
season we got out of high school at 11AM to be out in the fields by the
noon starting time... The teachers and principal would all come out to
the parking lot and go around looking at everyones' shotguns and to
show off their shotguns... So we would have 50, or more, teenagers and
adults milling around with shotguns in their hands, on the school
grounds... Can you imagine the reaction to that today?

denny

In a previous article, "Grumman-581" said:
"Chris" wrote in message
...
No a flight plan must be filed when crossing an international border.

Not always... Was flying back to Houston from SoCal a few years ago and
landing in El Paso for the night and and to refuel... I was routed well

The original poster is being accused of violating a Canadian regulation,
so I don't see how a story about a flight between two different
countries, neither of them Canada, is at all relevant.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
And on the seventh day, He exited from append mode.

But you didn't land in Mexico.




Grumman-581 wrote:
"Chris" wrote in message
...

No a flight plan must be filed when crossing an international border.


Not always... Was flying back to Houston from SoCal a few years ago and
landing in El Paso for the night and and to refuel... I was routed well
across the border by ATC and asked them about it... They said that they
controlled the Mexican airspace, so it wouldn't be a problem... I have to
think that if I had needed to make an emergency landing while south of the
border, it defintely would have been a problem since Mexico tends to take a
dim view of us bringing firearms into their country... And, of course, since
I'm a Texan, I *always* have a gun or two in my plane...

No a flight plan must be filed when crossing an international border.

No you don't.
When flying from Columbus, Ohio to Port Huron, Michigan, I overfly
Ontario to get there without filing a flight plan. I don't even talk to
anyone the whole route.

"john smith" wrote in message
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No a flight plan must be filed when crossing an international border.

No you don't.
When flying from Columbus, Ohio to Port Huron, Michigan, I overfly
Ontario to get there without filing a flight plan. I don't even talk to
anyone the whole route.

well done for waking up!