Child seat

The "no seat" rule is just there to make the airlines happy because

It's a little more sophisticated than that.
Airline seat backs are not as rigid as auto seats. The problem with the
earlier safety seats was that they would not withstand a rear impact and
would fold in half, crushing the child.

I don't see how the design of the airline seat makes holding the child
in your lap easier. We're not talking about child seats in this part of
the thread, only why the FAA allows you to hold a child.

-Robert

In article om,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

The "no seat" rule is just there to make the airlines happy because

It's a little more sophisticated than that.
Airline seat backs are not as rigid as auto seats. The problem with the
earlier safety seats was that they would not withstand a rear impact and
would fold in half, crushing the child.

I don't see how the design of the airline seat makes holding the child
in your lap easier. We're not talking about child seats in this part of
the thread, only why the FAA allows you to hold a child.

The OP inquired about Canadian requirements for child safety seats.
He noted that the US had changed requirements. I provided the reason for
the requirements change.
Ten years ago, I commuted for a year between Ohio and Puerto Rico with a
3 year old and a five year old. I ALWAYS purchased separate seats and
brought along the child safety seats for my children.
The flight crews (Delta and USAir) were always very helpful, carrying
the two seats while I carried the children and carryon from the plane to
the terminal.

The OP inquired about Canadian requirements for child safety seats.
He noted that the US had changed requirements. I provided the reason for
the requirements change.

Maybe my reader was messed up. It showed your response as under my
comment on the "no seat" rule, not under the OP.

-Robert

On Tue, 02 May 2006 06:48:30 -0700, Robert M. Gary wrote:

The "no seat" rule is just there to make the airlines happy because they
can't sell a full fare ticket for an infant (they can try but won't get a
lot of takers).

Perhaps that's why US airlines don't bother to carry the little "double
belt" do-dad that actually makes carrying a child in one's arms not a
completely risky act. Luftansa always seems to have them.

Of course, Luftansa also has those mini-cribs.

- Andrew

Of course, Luftansa also has those mini-cribs.

And hot towels !

-Robert
(holder of Luftansa frequent flyer card)

I have always strapped my DoT approved child seat in the back of the
Cessna 172F. I take the holding strap and go over the seat and lock it
to where the seat belts are connected to the floor. My seat belts make
the connection right behind the seat. Very difficult to release the
seat belt to remove the child seat. I fly my grandchildren in it until
they out grew it. Now is use booster seats so they can see out.

Ross

P.S. Don't forget hearing protection. I made some adapters for my adult
headsets that worked just fine and the grandkids never were bothered
about wearing them.

Ross

Andrew Sarangan wrote:

We are considering a flight from the U.S. to Canada with our one-year
old. I am a bit confused by the FAR's regarding child seats. On the one
hand, it says that the child may be simply held by an adult, but then
it says if you use a child seat it must be approved for aircraft use.
Common sense would dictate that any child seat is better than nothing.
But the FARs seem to say that no seat is better than a car seat. Anyone
have experience with this?

How do the rules differ in Canada?

No headset appeard it would work for an infant (especially when their
age is in small numbers of weeks)

Eventually I modified earmuffs to fit (and not fold) and integrated 2"
memory foam into the muffs to seal around/in the ear.

Mike


Ross Richardson wrote:
I have always strapped my DoT approved child seat in the back of the
Cessna 172F. I take the holding strap and go over the seat and lock it
to where the seat belts are connected to the floor. My seat belts make
the connection right behind the seat. Very difficult to release the
seat belt to remove the child seat. I fly my grandchildren in it until
they out grew it. Now is use booster seats so they can see out.

Ross

P.S. Don't forget hearing protection. I made some adapters for my adult
headsets that worked just fine and the grandkids never were bothered
about wearing them.

Ross

Andrew Sarangan wrote:

We are considering a flight from the U.S. to Canada with our one-year
old. I am a bit confused by the FAR's regarding child seats. On the one
hand, it says that the child may be simply held by an adult, but then
it says if you use a child seat it must be approved for aircraft use.
Common sense would dictate that any child seat is better than nothing.
But the FARs seem to say that no seat is better than a car seat. Anyone
have experience with this?

How do the rules differ in Canada?

The very small head would be a problem. My grandchildren started flying
when they were two or three and my little adapters to adult headsets
worked fine. And, i was lucky that they did not want to pull them off or
play with them. I did have my grandson almost chew the cord into. Caught
him in time.

Ross

pittss1c wrote:

No headset appeard it would work for an infant (especially when their
age is in small numbers of weeks)

Eventually I modified earmuffs to fit (and not fold) and integrated 2"
memory foam into the muffs to seal around/in the ear.

Mike


Ross Richardson wrote:

I have always strapped my DoT approved child seat in the back of the
Cessna 172F. I take the holding strap and go over the seat and lock it
to where the seat belts are connected to the floor. My seat belts make
the connection right behind the seat. Very difficult to release the
seat belt to remove the child seat. I fly my grandchildren in it until
they out grew it. Now is use booster seats so they can see out.

Ross

P.S. Don't forget hearing protection. I made some adapters for my
adult headsets that worked just fine and the grandkids never were
bothered about wearing them.

Ross

Andrew Sarangan wrote:

We are considering a flight from the U.S. to Canada with our one-year
old. I am a bit confused by the FAR's regarding child seats. On the one
hand, it says that the child may be simply held by an adult, but then
it says if you use a child seat it must be approved for aircraft use.
Common sense would dictate that any child seat is better than nothing.
But the FARs seem to say that no seat is better than a car seat. Anyone
have experience with this?

How do the rules differ in Canada?