FAA Control tower Abandoned

Does that mean the Class D Airspace was in existence an extra hour too?
What happens if I dutifully read my AFD and discover that the tower (and
the associated CDAS) closes at midnight, so I figure when I arrive at 12:30
I don't need to talk to anybody.

I fly in, enter the pattern, land, and taxi to the ramp without bothering
to self-announce. Have I broken any regulations?

In article ,
Robert Chambers wrote:

You'd still try and get the ATIS before you got there wouldn't you?

Maybe. If I didn't expect the tower to be open, I wouldn't expect there to
be anything interesting to hear on the ATIS so maybe I wouldn't have
bothered.

I probably would have self-announced on the CTAF (in which case the tower
would hear me and let me know they're still home), but that wasn't the
question. I'm asking a nit-picking silly "let's dissect the FARs on
usenet" kind of hypothetical question. If I just flew in and landed
without talking to anybody, would I have broken any rules?

or Manchester. They already fly into Manchester so have arrangements
there.

Still have issues with rounding up ground personnel, but after flying
to PVD and back I would suspect they had the same issues at the origin
airport...


On Thu, 18 May 2006 11:32:58 GMT, Robert Chambers
wrote:

You'd still try and get the ATIS before you got there wouldn't you? I
know at my home airport once the tower closes down the ATIS tells you
it's class E until 0630 local and gives the CTAF and for further
information contact New York App and gives their freq. Then the ASOS
says it's piece and the whole thing repeats. If I return late and hear
that I know the field is closed, if I get a standard ATIS broadcast I'd
for sure call the tower and see what they had to say.

I bet BOS was open, they have all sorts of approaches there and since
PVD tends to be a reliever for BOS (esp for those living south of
Boston) people wouldn't have minded too much. Of course SWA would have
had the logistics problem of finding a place to park and people to
handle them. Better to be 60 miles away from where you wanted to be
than 200.

Robert

Roy Smith wrote:
Newps wrote:

I kept the tower open an extra hour or so


Does that mean the Class D Airspace was in existence an extra hour too?
What happens if I dutifully read my AFD and discover that the tower (and
the associated CDAS) closes at midnight, so I figure when I arrive at 12:30
I don't need to talk to anybody.

I fly in, enter the pattern, land, and taxi to the ramp without bothering
to self-announce. Have I broken any regulations?

"Roy Smith" wrote in message
...

Does that mean the Class D Airspace was in existence an extra hour too?


Nope.



What happens if I dutifully read my AFD and discover that the tower (and
the associated CDAS) closes at midnight, so I figure when I arrive at
12:30 I don't need to talk to anybody.

I fly in, enter the pattern, land, and taxi to the ramp without bothering
to self-announce. Have I broken any regulations?


Yup. You've violated FAR 91.127(c):

§ 91.127 Operating on or in the vicinity of an airport in Class E
airspace.

(c) Communications with control towers. Unless otherwise authorized or
required by ATC, no person may operate an aircraft to, from, through, or on
an airport having an operational control tower unless two-way radio
communications are maintained between that aircraft and the control tower.
Communications must be established prior to 4 nautical miles from the
airport, up to and including 2,500 feet AGL. However, if the aircraft radio
fails in flight, the pilot in command may operate that aircraft and land if
weather conditions are at or above basic VFR weather minimums, visual
contact with the tower is maintained, and a clearance to land is received.
If the aircraft radio fails while in flight under IFR, the pilot must comply
with §91.185.


Green Bay ATCT and TRACON normally close at 11:30PM and Minneapolis ARTCC
takes the airspace. But when the Packers are hosting Monday Night Football
there are usually a few dozen aircraft that want to depart after closing.
On those occasions we stay open until 2AM and an appropriate NOTAM is
issued. But it's only the operating hours of the tower and TRACON that are
extended, the Class C airspace still vanishes at 11:30 so we become a
towered field in a Class E surface area.

Roy Smith wrote:
Newps wrote:

I kept the tower open an extra hour or so


Does that mean the Class D Airspace was in existence an extra hour too?

That was before they invented the lettered airspace. We were a control
zone back then.


What happens if I dutifully read my AFD and discover that the tower (and
the associated CDAS) closes at midnight, so I figure when I arrive at 12:30
I don't need to talk to anybody.

I fly in, enter the pattern, land, and taxi to the ramp without bothering
to self-announce. Have I broken any regulations?

The weather was IFR so yeah, you broke some regs. In reality we would
work around you should that ever happen in VFR weather. No rules would
have been busted.