High-Altitude Torpedo Launch

I spent my time in VS-27, VS-30, VS-73, VP-93 and FASOTRAGRULANT.

Bill Kambic
Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN
Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

I'm going to have to start working "fasotragrulant" into
conversations...

"The wife's feeling a bit fasotragrulant, so we going to stay home
tonight."

Cheers,
Wes

PS- worked a bit on the early stages of MMA (P-8), and discovered that
the reason for the internal weapons bay was the inadvisability of
freezing your torps at altitude.
Wanted to invent a VLTC (Very Large Tea Cozy) to allow external
carriage, but management wouldn't buy it...

weasel wrote:
I spent my time in VS-27, VS-30, VS-73, VP-93 and FASOTRAGRULANT.

Bill Kambic
Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN
Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

I'm going to have to start working "fasotragrulant" into
conversations...

"The wife's feeling a bit fasotragrulant, so we going to stay home
tonight."

Cheers,
Wes




Sounds like a dietary issue ...




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Cheers

Dave Kearton

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:11:49 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
wrote:

Sounds like a dietary issue ...

"Beans for power...onions for aroma!" ;-)


Bill Kambic
Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN
Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

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On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:11:49 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
wrote:

Sounds like a dietary issue ...

"Beans for power...onions for aroma!" ;-)


Bill Kambic
Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN
Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão



....broccoli for pitch




My wife doesn't understand why I hang around the Internet .....



"..but honey, we just did a fart joke half way around the planet ..."



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Cheers

Dave Kearton (beware the 'own goal')

wrote:

:Something I've often seen claimed (and seen depicted in Hollyweird
:epics) but never confirmed by someone in a postion to know, was
:whether or not a really noisy aircraft (like a P-3 or a HS-3) could
:actually be detected by a sub's passive arrays. I've always had my
:doubts (that air/water interface is tough to penetrate) but I really
:don't know. I guess I really don't want to know (given that I've just
:gotten my first Reserve retirement check :-) ).
:
:Still, if accoustic detection by the sub of an aircraft is practical,
:then a system to attack the aircraft becomes a viable option. If the
:first time you know an aircraft is around is when you hear an
:air-launched homing topedo "light off" then there's no sense in
:wasting the space and other assets to support such a system.
:
:I spent my time in VS-27, VS-30, VS-73, VP-93 and FASOTRAGRULANT.

Hint: Ask your AW if he can ever see airplanes on a sonobuoy. If the
answer is yes, consider that the submarine has a lot more hydrophones
than the buoy does.

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"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
--George Bernard Shaw

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:16:40 GMT, Fred J. McCall
wrote:

wrote:

:Something I've often seen claimed (and seen depicted in Hollyweird
:epics) but never confirmed by someone in a postion to know, was
:whether or not a really noisy aircraft (like a P-3 or a HS-3) could
:actually be detected by a sub's passive arrays. I've always had my
:doubts (that air/water interface is tough to penetrate) but I really
:don't know. I guess I really don't want to know (given that I've just
:gotten my first Reserve retirement check :-) ).
:
:Still, if accoustic detection by the sub of an aircraft is practical,
:then a system to attack the aircraft becomes a viable option. If the
:first time you know an aircraft is around is when you hear an
:air-launched homing topedo "light off" then there's no sense in
:wasting the space and other assets to support such a system.
:
:I spent my time in VS-27, VS-30, VS-73, VP-93 and FASOTRAGRULANT.

Hint: Ask your AW if he can ever see airplanes on a sonobuoy. If the
answer is yes, consider that the submarine has a lot more hydrophones
than the buoy does.

Tough to do since I've not seen an AW in about 25 years! :-)

Still, I never saw a trace of a Stoof, nor did I ever hear us passing
over our own bouys. Never tried in the P-3.


Bill Kambic
Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN
Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

Hint: Ask your AW if he can ever see airplanes on a sonobuoy. If the
answer is yes, consider that the submarine has a lot more hydrophones
than the buoy does.

Tough to do since I've not seen an AW in about 25 years! :-)

Still, I never saw a trace of a Stoof, nor did I ever hear us passing
over our own bouys. Never tried in the P-3.

Fred is right here, Bill. At the ASWOC on Dodge, we had to do training
("What kind of training?" "Acoooooustic Training, SIR!") and one of
our exercises was recognizing transients, including overflights of
buoys. The P-3 passes over quickly, so there was a noticeable doppler
shift and a somewhat discreet frequency that related to the [deleted]
- for heloes, it was more of a gigantic increase in broadband
background noise, until they dipped. Then you can ---

sound of window glass breaking, flash/bang detonation, muffled
screams

wrote:

:On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:16:40 GMT, Fred J. McCall
wrote:
:
wrote:
:
::Something I've often seen claimed (and seen depicted in Hollyweird
::epics) but never confirmed by someone in a postion to know, was
::whether or not a really noisy aircraft (like a P-3 or a HS-3) could
::actually be detected by a sub's passive arrays. I've always had my
::doubts (that air/water interface is tough to penetrate) but I really
::don't know. I guess I really don't want to know (given that I've just
::gotten my first Reserve retirement check :-) ).
::
::Still, if accoustic detection by the sub of an aircraft is practical,
::then a system to attack the aircraft becomes a viable option. If the
::first time you know an aircraft is around is when you hear an
::air-launched homing topedo "light off" then there's no sense in
::wasting the space and other assets to support such a system.
::
::I spent my time in VS-27, VS-30, VS-73, VP-93 and FASOTRAGRULANT.
:
:Hint: Ask your AW if he can ever see airplanes on a sonobuoy. If the
:answer is yes, consider that the submarine has a lot more hydrophones
:than the buoy does.
:
:Tough to do since I've not seen an AW in about 25 years! :-)
:
:Still, I never saw a trace of a Stoof, nor did I ever hear us passing
ver our own bouys. Never tried in the P-3.

You can see 'em on the analyzer as they go by the buoy. The range
isn't real great, but then the range of a SAM you can shoot out of a
conning tower isn't exactly long, either.

Jets don't show up the same as helos and prop jobs do.

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