McCain in '08

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 14:33:44 +0000 (UTC), (Paul
Tomblin) wrote in :

In a previous article, said:

In an unmoderated group like r.a.p., it is virtually impossible to stop
thread drift.

But thread drift isn't the only problem, it's threads that *start* as
political statements.

I classify OT posting as "thread drift." I understand that this is
an enlargement of the concept. shrug Stuff happens, especially
when dealing with humans.

That said, if anyone is serious about pursuing a new group for
whatever reasons, a description of the newsgroup creation
process for the Big-8 is available at http://www.big-8.org.

If the whole thread was a joke, then I grin, a bit. )

Marty

"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote

I doubt that the proposal is serious. Even if it was, I doubt that an
aviation/politics group would change human nature and prevent
thread drift in r.a.p.

It was serious. In the current North Korea thread (thanks Jay, ya big
butthead) it was started as a political discussion, from the beginning.
That could have just as easily started over there. I think it has finally
died, thankfully.
--
Jim in NC

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:48:26 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote in ::

It was serious.

Then here's all you have to do:


http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.p...icies:creation

Overview
Each of these steps is described in more detail below.

1. (optional) The proponent may start an informal discussion in
news.groups and in related groups about the proposed group.

2. The proponent submits a Request For Discussion (RFD) to
news.announce.newgroups.

3. Discussion of the RFD takes place primarily in news.groups.

4. The proponent asks the board to vote on the proposal.

5. The board votes on the proposal.

6. If the proposal passes, it is implemented.


It sure look simple. To begin the process, start a message thread
with the subject: RFD rec.aviation.politics, and cross post it to
rec.aviation.piloting, rec.aviation.ifr, and new.groups.


Or, go right to it:

2. Request for Discussion (RFD)
The proponent submits his/her proposal to the newsgroup
news.announce.newgroups by posting to the group or by emailing the
proposal to . This
submission is known as a Request For Discussion, or RFD.

The RFD should be cross-posted to newsgroups whose readers might
be interested in or affected by the proposed group. It should also
be cross-posted to news.groups, and followups should be directed
there. (If you do not know how to set followups in your
newsreader, we will help you figure it out. The line that needs to
be included in the RFD header field is “Followup-to:
news.groups”.)

Some information is required in the RFD:

newsgroup name
Checkgroups file entry
whether the newsgroup will be moderated or unmoderated
if moderated, who the initial moderator(s) will be, including
their contact addresses

Some information is not required, but is strongly encouraged:

rationale
charter
moderation policy, if moderated

Other information which supports the creation of the newsgroup may
be included. For example, this could include:

traffic analysis
moderation site and software
Each of these items is discussed in greater detail here.

As discussion of the RFD progresses in news.groups, the proponent
should submit revised RFDs to news.announce.newgroups et al.

"LD" == Larry Dighera writes:

LD 4. The proponent asks the board to vote on the proposal.

LD 5. The board votes on the proposal.

What board is this?

About 15 years ago I created a new group in comp.lang, and the rule
then was that a certain percentage of all voters had to be in favor of
the proposal. Certainly there was no "board". Or do you mean all the
people reading and voting on the proposal?

Morgans wrote:

What we need is a new group. Call it rec.aviation.politics. From the
amount of interest in discussing politics in THIS group, it ought to be a
big hit! g
--
Jim in NC

rec. "anything" is no longer available.

So I created this:

http://groups.google.com/groups/adul...ics%3Flnk%3Dli

Pilot Politics forum for us all to use.

Monk

On 15 Jul 2006 12:25:41 -0700, Flyingmonk wrote:


http://groups.google.com/groups/adul...ics%3Flnk%3Dli

whatever you did, you didn't do it on Usenet but on a website, and on
groups.google.com, one of the most spammer friendly web2news gateways I
know. Anyway: *Usenet*-users can't use this "group".

Monk

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Martin Hotze wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 12:25:41 -0700, Flyingmonk wrote:


http://groups.google.com/groups/adul...ics%3Flnk%3Dli

whatever you did, you didn't do it on Usenet but on a website, and on
groups.google.com, one of the most spammer friendly web2news gateways I
know. Anyway: *Usenet*-users can't use this "group".

I don't think anyone here is really sincere about wanting a separate
forum, but I thought I'd set one up anyways. It was simple emnough.

The email address to send posts via email is:



Monk

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:41:37 +0200, Martin Hotze
wrote in
::

whatever you did, you didn't do it on Usenet but on a website, and on
groups.google.com, one of the most spammer friendly web2news gateways I
know. Anyway: *Usenet*-users can't use this "group".

Brian has no clue about the difference between the two. Oh well...

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:41:37 +0200, Martin Hotze
wrote in
::

whatever you did, you didn't do it on Usenet but on a website, and on
groups.google.com, one of the most spammer friendly web2news gateways I
know. Anyway: *Usenet*-users can't use this "group".

Brian has no clue about the difference between the two. Oh well...

Oh please enlighten me oh great one... g

Monk

On 16 Jul 2006 18:49:30 -0700, "Flyingmonk"
wrote in . com::

Oh please enlighten me oh great one... g

Back in the '80's most news reading clients imposed a mandatory visit
to the news.newusers newsgroup upon their first time use, thus new
users had an opportunity to enlighten themselves about Usenet before
using it.