Banning mogas at the airport...

The right to fuel your own airplane with fuel you brought in from
elsewhere may also be covered by "common law". After all, it is your
property and your airplane. So long as you are not unsafe, it is your
right. Such a law would be akin to a company requiring you to fuel up
your car at the company pumps or you couldn't live in the company
housing or work at the company. Or being required to buy a Chevy if you
worked at Cheverolet. Such laws are not legal.

On 14 Jul 2006 21:59:48 -0700, "Doug"
wrote in . com::

The right to fuel your own airplane with fuel you brought in from
elsewhere may also be covered by "common law". After all, it is your
property and your airplane.

True, but you may have signed away that right on your hangar/tiedown
agreement with the airport operator.

So long as you are not unsafe, it is your right.

Hence the airports licensing requirement, probably mandated by the
airports indemnification policy.

Such a law would be akin to a company requiring you to fuel up
your car at the company pumps or you couldn't live in the company
housing or work at the company. Or being required to buy a Chevy if you
worked at Cheverolet. Such laws are not legal.

The FAA regulation cited by Macklin seem to cover that potential
issue.

My 2¢

| True, but you may have signed away that right on your
hangar/tiedown
| agreement with the airport operator.
Such a clause is invalid if the airport has taken federal
money... any person has the right to repair or fuel their
own airplane.



"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
| On 14 Jul 2006 21:59:48 -0700, "Doug"

| wrote in
. com::
|
| The right to fuel your own airplane with fuel you brought
in from
| elsewhere may also be covered by "common law". After all,
it is your
| property and your airplane.
|
| True, but you may have signed away that right on your
hangar/tiedown
| agreement with the airport operator.
|
| So long as you are not unsafe, it is your right.
|
| Hence the airports licensing requirement, probably
mandated by the
| airports indemnification policy.
|
| Such a law would be akin to a company requiring you to
fuel up
| your car at the company pumps or you couldn't live in the
company
| housing or work at the company. Or being required to buy
a Chevy if you
| worked at Cheverolet. Such laws are not legal.
|
| The FAA regulation cited by Macklin seem to cover that
potential
| issue.
|
| My 2¢

That's the rule Jay is looking for!

Indeed it is.

Thanks, Jim and all!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

One of the instructors who teaches for the AOPA CFI renewal
seminars is named Bill Gunn, his full time job is for the
State of Texas and he speaks about this issue at the
seminars. When he gets complaints about such issues, he
tells the local city councils and airports boards that they
must follow the contract and federal laws.

Here is a link with each states' agency.
http://www.nasea.org/state1.htm

Pilot: Bill Gunn - Austin, TX
Aircraft: N252MD, RV-4, Red
Home Airport: Georgetown (GTU)

Bill Gunn retired from the US Air Force as an F-4 Weapons
System Officer. Bill worked as a Certified Flight Instructor
and then for American Airlines. After then working in
aviation contract services, Bill took his present job with
the Aviation Branch of Texas Department of Transportation.
He bought his red RV-4 from Mark (#6 in the formation) and
has been flying with Falcon Flight since mid 90s.

He flies the RV to the classes he teaches. Hell of a nice
guy.




--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
| That's the rule Jay is looking for!
|
| Indeed it is.
|
| Thanks, Jim and all!
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|

Jay.. it is in the Federal Airport Funding documents.. Sponsor Assurances
you can self service on fuel..
the fueling system must pass Federal and local safety standards which
normally cover.. grounding.. fire extinguishers etc.. no fueling inside
hangers or when thunderstorms are present.. and it can also cover training
requirements of the fuel handlers (you and the mrs) and also EPA
requirements for absorbant material on hand in the event of a spillage..
goverened by the amount of fuel the "grape" can hold.

5 gallon gas cans, approved by DOT or which ever gov't agency, and poured
through a filtering cloth with a fire bottle near by is the minimum to meet
those rules. Your "Grape" would require at least 2 fire bottles, pumps,
approved hoses and emergency shut off capability.

BT
http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...assurances.pdf

http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...ct=obligations

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
For years, now, I've read that it's illegal for an FBO or airport to
forbid aircraft owners from fueling their own planes. In another
group, I simply parroted that information -- and now one of the group
members wants to know WHICH law expressly prohibits an FBO from
inhibiting an owner's ability to fuel his plane.

Is there such a law? If so, what's it called?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"