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Old July 24th 06, 11:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_1_]
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article et,
"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

[snip]
I don't know about the rest of the group, but I'll go with what TSA has
to
say on this, as actually, I already know what they will say.


Asking TSA would be fine except that the TSA has demonstrated fundemental
flaws wrt understanding security. The TSA has approved "security"
measures
which don't do anything to enhance security. (and let's not get started
on
the complete nonsense airline passengers have to deal with)

I would like to give specific examples from my home airport, but
technically
I'm not allowed to discuss the specifics of the "security" measures in
place.
Indeed, it would be inappropriate to openly discuss the numerous flaws and
vulnerabilities left exposed by the "security" measures.

Can you think of the flaws in a requirement to chain an aircraft to
a tie-down? How hard is it to defeat a proplock? While biometrics might
be required for access to the airport from the street, what security is
in place controlling access from the air?


All this is fine, and probably very true, but the quality of airport
security isn't the issue being discussed here. I think we all agree that the
system is not what it should be.The issue here is whether or not taking
photographs at major airports is on the security watch list which some have
indicated it isn't. It is of course. Personal opinions on how this policy is
carried out, or what you or I happen to like or dislike about the system is
not the issue.
Dudley Henriques


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Old July 25th 06, 12:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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The issue here is whether or not taking
photographs at major airports is on the security watch list


No, the issue is whether taking photographs at an airport (it wasn't
disclosed that it was a major airport, by the OP I assumed it was a
minor airport and hold to that pending clarification) is a security
risk. There is a difference between =being= a security risk, and being
on the security watch list.

Jose
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Old July 25th 06, 12:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Crash Lander[_1_]
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Hi Dudley!
This is fun innit! :-)

The funny thing is that you guys and girls that are complaining about
unnecessary security measures actually actively engage in them every day!
For example. You lock your doors and windows at night. Now, chances are,
you'll never get broken into and robbed, but you lock up anyway! Why? If
someone wants to get in, do you really think a little window lock or a
deadbolt on a door will stop them?
I suppose you refuse to show your passport when you go overseas, because
it's none of their buisness who you are or what you're planning on doing in
that other country? Of course you don't! How about a little consistency in
your arguments people!
Crash Lander


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Old July 25th 06, 12:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article . net,
"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

I don't know about the rest of the group, but I'll go with what TSA has
to
say on this, as actually, I already know what they will say.


Asking TSA would be fine except that the TSA has demonstrated fundemental
flaws wrt understanding security.

[snip]


All this is fine, and probably very true, but the quality of airport
security isn't the issue being discussed here.


true. But, you, in effect, claimed that the TSA would be an appropriate
authority on what constitutes a security problem. I was pointing out the
problem with that position.

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Old July 25th 06, 09:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Dudley,

write a simple email to TSA where it does matter, and
ask THEM if the taking of photographs at major airports is, or is not, one
of the issues their security people are specifically trained to consider in
the airport security equation


What's that got to do with the question whether it's a security issue or not?

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

 




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