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Old July 25th 06, 11:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article ,
Emily wrote:

Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state
filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want
to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one.


how about filing a FOIA to find out who has filed a FOIA?

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Old July 26th 06, 03:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kyle Boatright
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"Emily" wrote in message
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Emily,

Personally, I think neighborhood watches are creepy.


Especially in a country with, well, lose gun laws. But let's not go
there, the thread is bad enough as it is.

Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state
filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want to
own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one.

But you're right, it's bad enough as it is.


Where do you live and how does a FOIA request turn up who owns a gun? There
isn't supposed to be a database of gun owners unless you are in one of the
few states that has manditory gun registration.

In my state (GA) the only FOIA request that would get you any meaningful
information would be a request for a list of people who have concealed carry
permits.

KB


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Old July 26th 06, 03:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Kansas just passed a new CCW law and it will begin issuing
permit in January. They have already revised the law so
that the lists are only available to law enforcement, not
subject to FOIA requests.

Here in Kansas more than 50% of the homes have one or more
guns, but until next January, only police, PIs and criminals
on the prowl are carrying. There are even a few lawyers,
pharmacists, and taxi drivers who carry now. But soon, any
honest citizen will be able to legally carry. The state
will also soon approve out of state permits, so travel will
be safer.


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"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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|
| "Emily" wrote in message
| . ..
| Thomas Borchert wrote:
| Emily,
|
| Personally, I think neighborhood watches are creepy.
|
|
| Especially in a country with, well, lose gun laws. But
let's not go
| there, the thread is bad enough as it is.
|
| Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because
someone in my state
| filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I
would not want to
| own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find
out I own one.
|
| But you're right, it's bad enough as it is.
|
| Where do you live and how does a FOIA request turn up who
owns a gun? There
| isn't supposed to be a database of gun owners unless you
are in one of the
| few states that has manditory gun registration.
|
| In my state (GA) the only FOIA request that would get you
any meaningful
| information would be a request for a list of people who
have concealed carry
| permits.
|
| KB
|
|


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Old July 26th 06, 04:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Kyle Boatright wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
. ..
Thomas Borchert wrote:
Emily,

Personally, I think neighborhood watches are creepy.

Especially in a country with, well, lose gun laws. But let's not go
there, the thread is bad enough as it is.

Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state
filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want to
own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one.

But you're right, it's bad enough as it is.


Where do you live and how does a FOIA request turn up who owns a gun? There
isn't supposed to be a database of gun owners unless you are in one of the
few states that has manditory gun registration.

In my state (GA) the only FOIA request that would get you any meaningful
information would be a request for a list of people who have concealed carry
permits.

KB


Actually, I mistype. It was a request for conceal carry permit holders.
No idea why I wrote that. In any case, I don't know anyone in my
state who owns a gun and *doesn't* cc.

And still...if I own a gun, I don't want criminals knowing. That makes
you a target.
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Old July 26th 06, 04:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Emily wrote:



Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state
filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want
to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one.


??? Dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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Old July 26th 06, 04:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Newps wrote:


Emily wrote:



Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my
state filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would
not want to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out
I own one.


??? Dumbest thing I've ever heard.


That's nice for you. I don't want criminals knowing that I keep a gun
in my car, in my house, or on my body. Then they know they have a
weapon to use against you. Not a tough concept.
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Old July 24th 06, 05:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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How is that any different than your neighbors setting up a neighborhood watch program?

When I get accosted by a cop because I took a picture in somebody else's
neighborhood, it is no different. Perhaps cameras should be registered
weapons.

Jose
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Old July 24th 06, 05:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_1_]
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"Jose" wrote in message
t...
How is that any different than your neighbors setting up a neighborhood
watch program?


When I get accosted by a cop because I took a picture in somebody else's
neighborhood, it is no different. Perhaps cameras should be registered
weapons.

Jose


Your choice of the word "accosted" rather than the word approached is quite
interesting; revealing one might say :-))
Dudley Henriques


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Old July 24th 06, 09:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jose" wrote in message
t...
How is that any different than your neighbors setting up a neighborhood
watch program?


When I get accosted by a cop because I took a picture in somebody else's
neighborhood, it is no different. Perhaps cameras should be registered
weapons.


Had you a journalist with you, he or she might have reminded the officer
that -anything that is in plain public view- is legal, fair game for both
photography and publication.

For example, if instead of driving through the neighborhood you'd have flown
over it, who knows what you might see in people's backyards, but, guess
what: They can't stop you from photographing it. The paparazzi, Google
Earth, news helicopters, etc prove this daily.

The benchmark cases for this, by the way, include a photo somebody shot of a
dead fish in a window fishbowl where there had been a housefire, and another
photo of the "shadow" of where a woman had died and the fire burned around
her. The fire investigators left the front door open, and the photographer
was able to shoot the image from a public sidewalk.

A third case had to do with a Chicago streetcar fire in which many people
perished trying to escape. Utterly horrific photograph that had no place in
general news photography, but a local newspaper showed the photo the next
day. Can't find the case on the internet, though. Wouldn't want to see the
photo again.


-c


 




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