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Emily wrote: Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one. how about filing a FOIA to find out who has filed a FOIA? -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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![]() "Emily" wrote in message . .. Thomas Borchert wrote: Emily, Personally, I think neighborhood watches are creepy. Especially in a country with, well, lose gun laws. But let's not go there, the thread is bad enough as it is. Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one. But you're right, it's bad enough as it is. Where do you live and how does a FOIA request turn up who owns a gun? There isn't supposed to be a database of gun owners unless you are in one of the few states that has manditory gun registration. In my state (GA) the only FOIA request that would get you any meaningful information would be a request for a list of people who have concealed carry permits. KB |
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Kansas just passed a new CCW law and it will begin issuing
permit in January. They have already revised the law so that the lists are only available to law enforcement, not subject to FOIA requests. Here in Kansas more than 50% of the homes have one or more guns, but until next January, only police, PIs and criminals on the prowl are carrying. There are even a few lawyers, pharmacists, and taxi drivers who carry now. But soon, any honest citizen will be able to legally carry. The state will also soon approve out of state permits, so travel will be safer. -- The people think the Constitution protects their rights; But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome. some support http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties. "Kyle Boatright" wrote in message ... | | "Emily" wrote in message | . .. | Thomas Borchert wrote: | Emily, | | Personally, I think neighborhood watches are creepy. | | | Especially in a country with, well, lose gun laws. But let's not go | there, the thread is bad enough as it is. | | Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state | filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want to | own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one. | | But you're right, it's bad enough as it is. | | Where do you live and how does a FOIA request turn up who owns a gun? There | isn't supposed to be a database of gun owners unless you are in one of the | few states that has manditory gun registration. | | In my state (GA) the only FOIA request that would get you any meaningful | information would be a request for a list of people who have concealed carry | permits. | | KB | | |
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Kyle Boatright wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message . .. Thomas Borchert wrote: Emily, Personally, I think neighborhood watches are creepy. Especially in a country with, well, lose gun laws. But let's not go there, the thread is bad enough as it is. Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one. But you're right, it's bad enough as it is. Where do you live and how does a FOIA request turn up who owns a gun? There isn't supposed to be a database of gun owners unless you are in one of the few states that has manditory gun registration. In my state (GA) the only FOIA request that would get you any meaningful information would be a request for a list of people who have concealed carry permits. KB Actually, I mistype. It was a request for conceal carry permit holders. No idea why I wrote that. In any case, I don't know anyone in my state who owns a gun and *doesn't* cc. And still...if I own a gun, I don't want criminals knowing. That makes you a target. |
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![]() Emily wrote: Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one. ??? Dumbest thing I've ever heard. |
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Emily wrote: Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one. ??? Dumbest thing I've ever heard. That's nice for you. I don't want criminals knowing that I keep a gun in my car, in my house, or on my body. Then they know they have a weapon to use against you. Not a tough concept. |
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How is that any different than your neighbors setting up a neighborhood watch program?
When I get accosted by a cop because I took a picture in somebody else's neighborhood, it is no different. Perhaps cameras should be registered weapons. Jose -- The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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![]() "Jose" wrote in message t... How is that any different than your neighbors setting up a neighborhood watch program? When I get accosted by a cop because I took a picture in somebody else's neighborhood, it is no different. Perhaps cameras should be registered weapons. Jose Your choice of the word "accosted" rather than the word approached is quite interesting; revealing one might say :-)) Dudley Henriques |
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![]() "Jose" wrote in message t... How is that any different than your neighbors setting up a neighborhood watch program? When I get accosted by a cop because I took a picture in somebody else's neighborhood, it is no different. Perhaps cameras should be registered weapons. Had you a journalist with you, he or she might have reminded the officer that -anything that is in plain public view- is legal, fair game for both photography and publication. For example, if instead of driving through the neighborhood you'd have flown over it, who knows what you might see in people's backyards, but, guess what: They can't stop you from photographing it. The paparazzi, Google Earth, news helicopters, etc prove this daily. The benchmark cases for this, by the way, include a photo somebody shot of a dead fish in a window fishbowl where there had been a housefire, and another photo of the "shadow" of where a woman had died and the fire burned around her. The fire investigators left the front door open, and the photographer was able to shoot the image from a public sidewalk. A third case had to do with a Chicago streetcar fire in which many people perished trying to escape. Utterly horrific photograph that had no place in general news photography, but a local newspaper showed the photo the next day. Can't find the case on the internet, though. Wouldn't want to see the photo again. -c |
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