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Old July 27th 06, 05:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Gaquin
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"B A R R Y" wrote in message news:IGOxg.75725.


My co-owner likes the Jepp charts, but uses the FAA versions because he
has to pay for them himself.


Are they still free?? :-)


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Old July 26th 06, 04:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Javier[_1_]
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John Gaquin wrote:
"Andrey Serbinenko" wrote in message

Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally
nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting


Jeppesen started so early on (early 30s), and his little notebooks were so
relevant and to the point, that it didn't take much for the Jepps to become
the de facto industry standard, even after the government started publishing
their own charts. In almost 40 years I haven't met anyone, not 1, who
prefers the gov charts over Jepps.


I like the FAA enroute charts better than Jepps', and the "new" (a few
years old by now) format on FAA approach plates is fine.

I will probably switch to FAA charts when my Jepps subscription expires
in a couple of months.

-jav
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Old July 26th 06, 08:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ross Richardson[_1_]
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First I am not a hard IFR flyer. I started using Jepp because that is
what my instructor used. I had the SW, which is TX and the surrounding
states. That became a nightmare to update and most of the places I never
went to. I change to NOS charts after reading a IRF book by Rod Machado.
He explained IFR flying and compared the charts against each other. Each
have there good points and bad points. The differences were not that
great. I get a totally new book and can throw away the old. If I need
the additional territory, I just get that part. I now have North TX, OK
and AR.

Ross
KSWI

Javier wrote:

John Gaquin wrote:

"Andrey Serbinenko" wrote in message

Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally
nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting



Jeppesen started so early on (early 30s), and his little notebooks
were so relevant and to the point, that it didn't take much for the
Jepps to become the de facto industry standard, even after the
government started publishing their own charts. In almost 40 years I
haven't met anyone, not 1, who prefers the gov charts over Jepps.



I like the FAA enroute charts better than Jepps', and the "new" (a few
years old by now) format on FAA approach plates is fine.

I will probably switch to FAA charts when my Jepps subscription expires
in a couple of months.

-jav

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Old July 27th 06, 05:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Gaquin
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"Javier" wrote in message

I like the FAA enroute charts better than Jepps', and the "new" (a few
years old by now) format on FAA approach plates is fine.


I haven't even looked at a gov chart in 35 years or more. Perhaps they've
made changes to become more competitive and easier to use.


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Old July 27th 06, 03:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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I haven't even looked at a gov chart in 35 years or more. Perhaps they've
made changes to become more competitive and easier to use.


They have. They are much better now.

Jose
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Old July 26th 06, 12:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Andrey Serbinenko wrote:

Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally
nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting
business? TERPS people develop the procedures, FAA test-flies
them, and all this info is publicly available. Yet, the only
commercial enterprise harvesting there is jepp. Between NACO and
them there's a substantial gap in terms of pricing and packaging
of services. Why is it empty?


First guess would be that there isn't enough money to be made to make it
worthwhile.

Matt
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Old July 26th 06, 01:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Right on!




"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
| Andrey Serbinenko wrote:
|
| Does anybody know why it so happened that there's
literally
| nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical
charting
| business? TERPS people develop the procedures, FAA
test-flies
| them, and all this info is publicly available. Yet, the
only
| commercial enterprise harvesting there is jepp. Between
NACO and
| them there's a substantial gap in terms of pricing and
packaging
| of services. Why is it empty?
|
| First guess would be that there isn't enough money to be
made to make it
| worthwhile.
|
| Matt


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Old July 26th 06, 07:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y[_1_]
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Andrey Serbinenko wrote:
Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally
nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting
business?


What about the plain old FAA published charts?

Isn't all the same data there, just in a different format?
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Old July 27th 06, 02:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert Barker
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"Andrey Serbinenko" wrote in message
...
Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally
nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting
business? TERPS people develop the procedures, FAA test-flies
them, and all this info is publicly available. Yet, the only
commercial enterprise harvesting there is jepp. Between NACO and
them there's a substantial gap in terms of pricing and packaging
of services. Why is it empty?


Andrey


70 years of collecting and publishing?


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Old July 31st 06, 01:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Natalie
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Andrey Serbinenko wrote:
Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally
nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting
business? TERPS people develop the procedures, FAA test-flies
them, and all this info is publicly available. Yet, the only
commercial enterprise harvesting there is jepp. Between NACO and
them there's a substantial gap in terms of pricing and packaging
of services. Why is it empty?


Well, Howie Keefe's Air Chart Systems actually developed innovative
repackaging of the government charts in addition to some self-produced
charts I don't think they sell anymore.
 




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