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Earl Grieda wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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AES/newspost wrote:


In article ,
"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:



He's opposed to private ownership of any firearm except shotguns plugged

to

three
shells. And just where in the Constitution exactly is hunting mentioned?

He

prattles
about "military-style assault weapons" while trying to ban

semi-automatics,

knowing
full well that no military-style assault weapon is semi-automatic.

I have the right to own and fire my Mauser, and, as far as I'm

concerned,

that
includes the right to be allowed to buy ammunition for it. Kerry tried

to ban

that,
and we aren't talking anything armor-piercing here.



Want to give us a few details, just for the record, about the "well
regulated militia" to which you, personally, belong? (given your focus
on the Constitution, I assume you do) -- Name, location where it's
registered, number of members, just who it's "well regulated" by, that
sort of thing?

You better go back and learn what "well regulated" meant in the time
when the Constitution was written. And while you are at it, learn what
militia meant at that time as well. Hint, the meanings aren't at all
the same as the generally accepted meanings today.





Please provide a referance to back up your etymological evolution of these
terms.

Earl G.



That would be a reference, with three e's. Since you are too lazy to do
your own research, here's a little to get you started:

http://www.constitution.org/mil/cs_milit.htm

http://www.post-gazette.com/forum/20001008edkelly5.asp

http://www.nitewavesherrym.com/militia/militia.html


Do you think you can handle "well regulated" on your own?


Matt

Earl Grieda wrote:

Please provide a referance to back up your etymological evolution of these
terms.

Look up "militia" in the OED for starters.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

On 11/4/04 11:21 AM, in article
, "AES/newspost"
wrote:



Want to give us a few details, just for the record, about the "well
regulated militia" to which you, personally, belong? (given your focus
on the Constitution, I assume you do) -- Name, location where it's
registered, number of members, just who it's "well regulated" by, that
sort of thing?

Your interpretation of "well-regulated" has been the subject of many
debates, and is very likely wrong. Google the term a bit and you'll see what
I mean.
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Exactly. "Well regulated" back then meant "well trained" .. trained in
the use of firearms... not regulated by government laws. If they felt like
more laws and regulations would enhance the "security of a free state"
then they would have created a bunch of laws right then and there.


Wizard of Draws wrote:

Your interpretation of "well-regulated" has been the subject of many
debates, and is very likely wrong. Google the term a bit and you'll see what
I mean.

The word "regulated" was used at the time of the writing of the Bill of
Rights to mean "trained".

The militia was all the male citizens.

"AES/newspost" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:


He's opposed to private ownership of any firearm except shotguns plugged
to
three
shells. And just where in the Constitution exactly is hunting mentioned?
He
prattles
about "military-style assault weapons" while trying to ban
semi-automatics,
knowing
full well that no military-style assault weapon is semi-automatic.

I have the right to own and fire my Mauser, and, as far as I'm concerned,
that
includes the right to be allowed to buy ammunition for it. Kerry tried to
ban
that,
and we aren't talking anything armor-piercing here.


Want to give us a few details, just for the record, about the "well
regulated militia" to which you, personally, belong? (given your focus
on the Constitution, I assume you do) -- Name, location where it's
registered, number of members, just who it's "well regulated" by, that
sort of thing?

"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
...
The word "regulated" was used at the time of the writing of the Bill of
Rights to mean "trained".

The militia was all the male citizens.

At the time it meant "efficient" and/or "accurate"

It derived from "regular", as in regularity...as in frequent bowel
movements...


Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

Or as in a well regulated clock, meaning operating well and efficiently.

Matt Barrow wrote:
"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
...

The word "regulated" was used at the time of the writing of the Bill of
Rights to mean "trained".

The militia was all the male citizens.


At the time it meant "efficient" and/or "accurate"

It derived from "regular", as in regularity...as in frequent bowel
movements...


Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

Cecil Chapman wrote:

Guns
He's a hunter, I'm pretty sure they use guns for that (he's not a
bowhunter). Just because one doesn't support ownership of AK-47's and
public access to armor-piercing bullets doesn't make one an enemy to gun
ownership. In fact, his record as a senator reveals that he has
consistently supported appropriate gun ownership. I own two shotguns and a
couple of rifles - don't hunt, but skeet and target shoot. Even still, I
just don't think the average citizen needs armor-piercing bullets or AK-47's
(unless you live in remote parts of Alaska grin)/.

He's only a hunter when there is a camera around. His comments about
hunting show that he hasn't a clue about hunting. Funny, I don't recall
the second amendment ever mentioning hunting, or "appropriate" gun
ownership. You must have a different constitution than I have.

Kerry is so hypocritical he makes even Bill Clinton look like an honest man.


Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote


Kerry is so hypocritical he makes even Bill Clinton look like an honest
man.


Matt

BINGO!!!
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Yep, Jim in NC, GOOD point!,,,, can YOU say WMD's?

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