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Old November 5th 04, 02:04 AM
John T
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message


I'm not saying at that all. You need reading lessons, I guess.


Perhaps. Would you kindly parse this for me and let me know what you really
meant, then?:

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But the real issue here is that the people who voted for Bush, on the whole,
simply either refuse to believe the factual reports that contradict
everything Bush claimed and claims, or failed to pay attention to those
reports when they were made.
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Old November 5th 04, 12:18 AM
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But the real issue here is that the people who voted for Bush, on the
whole,
simply either refuse to believe the factual reports that contradict
everything Bush claimed and claims, or failed to pay attention to those
reports when they were made.


If you are talking about the iraq-terrorism connection then you are dead
wrong. Try reading the 911 commission report before making wild claims.


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Old November 5th 04, 06:01 AM
Peter Duniho
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"John T" wrote in message
m...
Perhaps. Would you kindly parse this for me and let me know what you
really meant, then?


I meant exactly what I wrote. Nowhere in the statement that you quoted is
anything that could be construed as meaning "anybody voting for Bush failed
to pay attention or chose to ignore the facts". As I've stated elsewhere,
some 36% of the people voting for Bush did apparently have the facts.
"Anybody voting for Bush" would imply 0%, and I've not once said that.

Pete


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Old November 4th 04, 11:03 PM
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Peter Duniho wrote:

"Laura Clayton" wrote in message
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Apparently you can fool 50% of the people, but there is always a noise
function.


I've often wondered why some people feel the need to insult the
intelligence of their fellow voters who simply do not agree with
their world views.



Actually, according to the Gallup Poll, among Republicans you can fool over
60% of the people.

I can't speak for where Bob's coming from, but the truth remains that for
the most part, people who voted for Bush don't actually have their facts
straight. This is not disputable.


This is hilarious. Do you think that people who voted for Kerry had
their facts any more straight?


Matt

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Old November 4th 04, 11:27 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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This is hilarious. Do you think that people who voted for Kerry had their
facts any more straight?


Yes. The Gallup poll shows that to be the case, at least with respect to
Bush's statements.


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Old November 4th 04, 11:41 PM
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Peter Duniho wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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This is hilarious. Do you think that people who voted for Kerry had their
facts any more straight?



Yes. The Gallup poll shows that to be the case, at least with respect to
Bush's statements.



Have you been this deluded for a long time or is it something that
happened recently? Polls are statistics, not facts.


Matt

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Old November 5th 04, 01:11 AM
Peter Duniho
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Have you been this deluded for a long time or is it something that
happened recently? Polls are statistics, not facts.


Polls are facts about statistics.

Are you claiming that the Gallup poll does NOT substantially describe the
working knowledge of people who supported Bush? If so, you're attempting to
contradict centuries of well-established statistical science.

Sounds to me like it's you that's deluded.


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Old November 5th 04, 01:24 AM
Matt Whiting
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Peter Duniho wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Have you been this deluded for a long time or is it something that
happened recently? Polls are statistics, not facts.



Polls are facts about statistics.


I'd say just the opposite. Polls are statistics about facts.


Are you claiming that the Gallup poll does NOT substantially describe the
working knowledge of people who supported Bush? If so, you're attempting to
contradict centuries of well-established statistical science.


Yes, most of these polls have significant biases.


Sounds to me like it's you that's deluded.


You need a new hearing aid then.


Matt

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Old November 5th 04, 06:02 AM
Peter Duniho
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Polls are facts about statistics.


I'd say just the opposite. Polls are statistics about facts.


Statistics are always about facts. Polls are the facts about the
statistics.

Yes, most of these polls have significant biases.


Such as?


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Old November 5th 04, 02:35 AM
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Peter Duniho wrote:



Polls are facts about statistics.


A poll isn't a fact about anything except the people who participated.
It is an educated guess about some particular subject. The results may
or may not be factual.
 




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