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Old November 6th 04, 11:58 PM
Bob Noel
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"Peter Duniho" wrote:

Yes, that is a fact because it includes the element of time. If you take
two polls at the same time in the same place you will get two different
answers.


Not if you poll the same people.


assuming that they will answer truthfully each time....

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Old November 7th 04, 02:25 AM
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Peter Duniho wrote:
So far, you've made no suggestions about why those polls are
significantly wrong, and as I've already pointed out, the chances of those
polls being correct are MUCH greater than the chances of them being
drastically incorrect.


So which is it? Is the poll a fact or nearly a fact?
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Old November 7th 04, 03:19 AM
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So which is it? Is the poll a fact or nearly a fact?


I've already said. Please keep up. The poll is a fact. They are 100%
correct about the fact they represent. They are reasonably (and more
importantly, usefully) close to 100% correct about the facts that they ask
about.

If you're having trouble distinguishing between the two, I recommend you
find a decent statistics book.


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Old November 7th 04, 03:44 AM
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Peter Duniho wrote:

"Newps" wrote in message
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So which is it? Is the poll a fact or nearly a fact?



I've already said. Please keep up. The poll is a fact. They are 100%
correct about the fact they represent. They are reasonably (and more
importantly, usefully) close to 100% correct about the facts that they ask
about.


Exactly what is "useful" about exit polls taken on election day?
Exactly what is useful about other political polls for that matter,
unless you are a democratic who can't think on his/her own and needs a
poll to tell them what to do. :-)


Matt

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Old November 7th 04, 04:14 AM
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Peter Duniho wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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So which is it? Is the poll a fact or nearly a fact?



I've already said. Please keep up. The poll is a fact.


The poll is not a fact. It is potentially a close approximation of a fact.


They are 100%
correct about the fact they represent.


They are almost never correct about the fact they are trying to represent.
 




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