Flying on the Cheap - Wood

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Let's not forget that the articles that prompted this thread were about
how to build a plane with at least the same performance and safety
as many kit planes, but for much less money.


NO.... INCORRECT...........
Lets go back and READ.
The thread started out talking about inexpensive wood sources and how
sometimes
good stuff can be had at box stores like Home Depot. RS Hoover specifically
referenced his past writings on wood selection in post one of this thread.
It had NOTHING to do with performance, just the use of lo buck wood.
SOMEBODY morphed this into a design circular argument, but getting back on
point
isn't on some folks agenda.

pbc76049 (removethis) wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Let's not forget that the articles that prompted this thread were about
how to build a plane with at least the same performance and safety
as many kit planes, but for much less money.


NO.... INCORRECT...........
Lets go back and READ.
The thread started out talking about inexpensive wood sources and how
sometimes
good stuff can be had at box stores like Home Depot. RS Hoover specifically
referenced his past writings on wood selection in post one of this thread.
It had NOTHING to do with performance, just the use of lo buck wood.
SOMEBODY morphed this into a design circular argument, but getting back on
point
isn't on some folks agenda.

How does buying your own wood, instead of buying the wood as
part of a kit, change the performance of the plane?

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FF

Roger wrote:

airplane is quite a misnomer. Which is the reason why, IMHO, one
should not recommend that a homebuilder use an engine that has
never, or almost never flown successfully. If the homebuilder is a
genuine gearhead, they'll already have their own ideas, if not, they
ought to avoid breaking new ground unless or until they become
one.


If you aren't a "gearhead" why the hell are you thinking about
BUILDING AN AIRPLANE????

It's cheaper?? It isn't.

Cheaper? Are you kidding? By the time I finish the G-III (If I ever
do) I'll have more than twice the price of the Deb in it and that is
going with a used engine and prop.


In other words you could have bought a T-6 or an L-39 when you
started and they would now be worth much more than the G-III (I assume
by G-III you do not mean what averyone else I know means by a G-III-a
large Grumman with two turbofans used to haul VIPs and train Shuttle
pilots on approaches.)

On 16 Aug 2006 10:43:03 -0700, "Bret Ludwig"
wrote:


Roger wrote:

airplane is quite a misnomer. Which is the reason why, IMHO, one
should not recommend that a homebuilder use an engine that has
never, or almost never flown successfully. If the homebuilder is a
genuine gearhead, they'll already have their own ideas, if not, they
ought to avoid breaking new ground unless or until they become
one.


If you aren't a "gearhead" why the hell are you thinking about
BUILDING AN AIRPLANE????

It's cheaper?? It isn't.

Cheaper? Are you kidding? By the time I finish the G-III (If I ever
do) I'll have more than twice the price of the Deb in it and that is
going with a used engine and prop.


In other words you could have bought a T-6 or an L-39 when you
started and they would now be worth much more than the G-III (I assume
by G-III you do not mean what averyone else I know means by a G-III-a
large Grumman with two turbofans used to haul VIPs and train Shuttle

Any one except those that build their own airplanes. :-))

Actually I could have purchased a relatively low time, very nice L-39
with a brand new (spare) engine still in the can for what I paid for
the Deb or what I have in the G-III. The T-6s were about double that
price back then.

As for wood I'd think, which means I don't know for sure, that pallets
and shipping containers which may look rough, probably have better
wood in them than the stuff we purchase to put into homes now days.
The crate my G-III came in is far better wood than I can find at any
of the local lumberyards except the one that mills the stuff when you
order it. There is a *slight* difference in price.:-))

I should have kept the Ash tree that died in the front yard. It was
out by the power lines so the power company came out, trimmed it and
left me with a 20 foot tallt, stump about 2' across at the base and
over a foot at the top, that must have weighed well over a ton. Man
but that was some dense stuff. OTOH it's a crime to even ship, or
move dead Ash from one location to another around here. (courtesy of
the "Emerald Ash Borer")

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

pilots on approaches.)
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com